Scones

[DarloRich]

Builds up calories to beat the cold.

washed down with real deep fried iron bru?

Jam first, as it allows you to pile more cream on top. Cream-first leaves you with an unstable base to try and add jam.
Cheese scones are the work of the devil. You take two nice things, put them together, and end up with something disgusting.

I have to agree. Jam first. Cream first simply doesn't work and runs the risk of a jam/cream column collapse and the subsequent waste of product.

 

[Howardh]

washed down with real deep fried iron bru?

They don't waste good Scotch on their cornflakes for nothing y'know....

Actually that's not quite a flippant gag. My old Scots gran always used to find any excuse for a nip of Scotch or brandy. I'm sure she was delighted when she got a cold!! But even as a wee laddie there was usually a nip in something for me, especially when I'd been out in the cold.
As it happens I grew up to hate whisky so maybe it did me good!

 

[STEVIEBOY1]

Scone or scone is a bit like the bath or bath, north/south pronunciations. I prefer cream first to replace butter then more cream as I don't like strawberry jam.

 

[takno]

Scone or scone is a bit like the bath or bath, north/south pronunciations. I prefer cream first to replace butter then more cream as I don't like strawberry jam.

It's far less consistently split north/south than bath, partly because the extended 'a' in barth is used in a huge number of words and gets constantly reinforced. There are large chunks of the midlands and north-east where the "southern" pronunciation of scone is normal, and many areas and individual families in the south where you'll find them saying in the "northern" way.

 

[Calthrop]

Re pronunciation (cream / jam / butter, I'm not bothered: verdict, "whatever"): our family are kind-of hybrids between north and south, and posh and ordinary-down-to-earth folk. I'm not all that keen on "baked goods"; and don't think about scones, or use the word, a great deal -- found today, pondering the matter, that I really wasn't quite sure which pronunciation I favoured. Consulted my brother -- who has more use than me, for stuff in the baking line; he too had to think for a moment, but then opined that he prefers rhyming with "bone", rather than with "gone": he feels that though the former has rather repellently snobby and posh overtones -- the latter sounds as though it's the name of something really not very nice to eat. On reflection, I feel that I concur.

 

[gazthomas]

I pronounce it as "gone". And not as "bone".

Ditto

 

[DarloRich]

My old Scots gran always used to find any excuse for a nip of Scotch or brandy

That is medicinal. Perfectly fine.

Scone or scone is a bit like the bath or bath, north/south pronunciations

Agreed. Bath doesn't have an R in it btw.

Also why cant southerners pronounce Newcastle correctly. It isn't NUcastle.

 

[whhistle]

we have used the 'magic e'

Yes, the 'Magic E'

Not from Look and Read was it? :P

In a similar note, the majority of people pronounce many words wrong, compared with similar words.

Take moon, toon, tooth - many people exenuate the o's so it sounds more like mooooooon.

Yet simular words like book, cook, look all have shortened o's.

Following in shortening the o's would make "moon" sound more like "mun".

But if you follow the extension of the o's, then "book" would be "booooooook", which incidently people in and around Stoke on Trent pronounce it like that anyway. The same with cook and look. Yet I thnk they pronounce tooth the other way (as in "tuth").

 

[Strat-tastic]

I don't do it myself, but I like it when people pronounce it booook (buke to rhyme with Luke?)

 

[deltic1989]

I think it depends on where you come from. For me it's scone as in stone. However when I asked the lady in my local bakery for one, she implied that they were no longer there.
Regional variations exist in a lot of foods, if you want a real debate stand in any street in the UK with one of the pictured items and ask 100 people what it's called.

 

[GusB]

That's a roll

 

[takno]

That's a roll

Yup, definitely a roll

 

[Geezertronic]

I'm from Birmingham and pronounce it to rhyme with "gone". Although it's a quirk of the English language because cone (as in Ice Cream or Traffic) and gone are one letter different but are spoken differently

Don't get me started on batch, it's a bloody roll

 

[Busaholic]

Whatever you call it it's (a) tasteless and (b) over-priced, assuming it's cost at least 1p.

 

[takno]

Whatever you call it it's (a) tasteless and (b) over-priced, assuming it's cost at least 1p.

You could feed ducks with it. I know you're not really supposed to, but they absolutely quackers for the things

 

[whhistle]

That's a roll

Yup, definitely a roll

or a bap...

If it's crusty, it's a cob.
If it's floury, it's a bap.
If it's long, it's a sub roll (as in submarine) or torpedo roll.

Because if it's a roll with sausages in it, how do you separate it from one of these:

:P

 

[GusB]

or a bap...

If it's crusty, it's a cob.
If it's floury, it's a bap.
If it's long, it's a sub roll (as in submarine) or torpedo roll.

Because if it's a roll with sausages in it, how do you separate it from one of these:

:P

We are drifting away from the original topic of scones - perhaps the title could be amended to add "and other baked goods" to avoid the need for a new thread

Again, it comes down to regional variations, and the opening of a large can of worms! My memories of rolls when I was very young are of the darker (weel fired) rolls which are usually to be found in the central belt of Scotland. In these northern parts, one of our local bakers markets these specifically as Glasgow rolls, and while they have a slight crust, I wouldn't call them crusty rolls.

If you'd gone to our village bakery (long gone now) and asked for half-a-dozen rolls you would have been presented with "softies", which closely resemble the previous photograph. If you specifically wanted floury rolls, you had to ask for white rolls. The sub type is just simply sold as finger rolls. Then there's Aberdeen, where people speak of rolls, but actually mean butteries (or rowies); these do not resemble bread rolls at all!

With regard to the pastry-wrapped sausage you've pictured, it's clearly a sausage roll to me. I would ask for a roll'n'sausage if I wanted a roll with sausage in it! Sausage rolls (pastry) were known around here as brad(d)ies (ah, rather than ay), as opposed to bridies, which are half-moon shaped pastries enclosing a meat filling. The same thing will eventually turn into a pasty as it ventures southwards!

 

[takno]

or a bap...

If it's crusty, it's a cob.
If it's floury, it's a bap.
If it's long, it's a sub roll (as in submarine) or torpedo roll.

Because if it's a roll with sausages in it, how do you separate it from one of these:
:P

Sausage on a bread roll is a breakfast roll. If I need to choose a type of roll beyond white or brown I generally expect to be able to point at the one I want. Living in a large city it's 50-50 at best whether the serving staff are local or even from the UK, so complex UK regional variations in language are straight out of the window.

 

[Strat-tastic]

Would anyone like any toast?

 

[Bayum]

Not from Look and Read was it? :P

In a similar note, the majority of people pronounce many words wrong, compared with similar words.

Take moon, toon, tooth - many people exenuate the o's so it sounds more like mooooooon.

Yet simular words like book, cook, look all have shortened o's.

Following in shortening the o's would make "moon" sound more like "mun".

But if you follow the extension of the o's, then "book" would be "booooooook", which incidently people in and around Stoke on Trent pronounce it like that anyway. The same with cook and look. Yet I thnk they pronounce tooth the other way (as in "tuth").

It’s referred to as all sorts depending on what phonic scheme the schools follow.