I dunno. It may brighten up a journey a bit..You can legally carry all sorts of things in your bags that might be illegal to use publicly, like xmas shopping from Ann Summers, it doesn't mean you are going to use them on a train.
I dunno. It may brighten up a journey a bit..You can legally carry all sorts of things in your bags that might be illegal to use publicly, like xmas shopping from Ann Summers, it doesn't mean you are going to use them on a train.
I bought a whisky from the on-train trolley coming back from Wick in 2018. Presumably that's still possible, assuming the trolley is still in operation.They need to rethink this policy, or get other TOCs on board and get them to also ban alcohol on the Scottish network.
The limited reintroduced trolley service does not serve alcohol.I bought a whisky from the on-train trolley coming back from Wick in 2018. Presumably that's still possible, assuming the trolley is still in operation.
Is Ms Sturgeon a strict teetotaller? As has been pointed out about, the main issue is usually the folks who've been drinking before getting on the train.The limited reintroduced trolley service does not serve alcohol.
Good luck, given the very limited XC services in Scotland currently.I am glad I have read this thread. If I visit Scotland, I will avoid ScotRail and travel with CrossCountry instead. A dry train is not a happy train for me.
Not that I am aware of. I'm sure she's visited whisky distilleries on the campaign trail before AND sampled a dram or two.Is Ms Sturgeon a strict teetotaller? As has been pointed out about, the main issue is usually the folks who've been drinking before getting on the train.
I'm sure using the train on a night out was actively encouraged to reduce drink driving with publicity. And it's known for Police Officers to stick someone drunk onto a train to avoid them getting hurt.Being able to drink alcohol onboard is a dominant factor in me deciding to choose rail travel onboard. In my experience, troublesome* drunk passengers are already in a state when they get on. Them having a can of Stella between Inverkeithing and Dundee isn't going to make much difference.
Don’t Northern have some dry trains on the Cumbrian Coast and Carlisle - Newcastle at weekends?
Not sure how widespread this is in England generally except where BTP decree for football etc..
No idea, but one of her MPs seems to like a drink on a train:Is Ms Sturgeon a strict teetotaller? As has been pointed out about, the main issue is usually the folks who've been drinking before getting on the train.
NP MP Mhairi Black has apologised after she was filmed drinking lager on a ScotRail train despite a ban on alcohol being in place.
Footage emerged of the Paisley and Renfrewshire South MP drinking from a can while surrounded by football fans.
The video was first published by the Spectator magazine’s website, which said it took place on a train travelling to Glasgow Central after a football match between Ayr United and Partick Thistle.
A ban on alcohol on board ScotRail trains was extended when the rail franchise was nationalised on April 1.
A spokesman for the MP said: “Mhairi has been reminded of the rules and apologises.”
Nicola Sturgeon was asked about the MP’s apology while she was campaigning in Edinburgh ahead of the local elections.
The First Minister said she had not spoken to Black about the incident.
She told the PA news agency: “She has apologised, I’m sure she’ll be deeply regretful at making that slip.
“But she’s done the right thing and apologised, and I know Mhairi takes her own behaviour and integrity extremely seriously.”
She later told journalists she did not think ScotRail’s ban on alcohol should be scrapped.
And there was me thinking young Mhairi was the respectable (and respected) "future face" of Scottish politics.No idea, but one of her MPs seems to like a drink on a train:
Mhairi Black apologises after video of drinking on train emerges
Footage showed the Paisley and Renfrewshire South MP drinking from a can while surrounded by football fans.news.stv.tv
Was she campaigning in Ireland?I'm sure she's visited whiskey distilleries on the campaign trail before AND sampled a dram or two.
How embarrassing that people should make such a fuss over drinking from a can on a train. It's an absolutely ludicrous and dictator-like rule, I think.No idea, but one of her MPs seems to like a drink on a train:
Mhairi Black apologises after video of drinking on train emerges
Footage showed the Paisley and Renfrewshire South MP drinking from a can while surrounded by football fans.news.stv.tv
No idea, but one of her MPs seems to like a drink on a train:
Mhairi Black apologises after video of drinking on train emerges
Footage showed the Paisley and Renfrewshire South MP drinking from a can while surrounded by football fans.news.stv.tv
How embarrassing that people should make such a fuss over drinking from a can on a train. It's an absolutely ludicrous and dictator-like rule, I think.
It's an absolutely ludicrous and dictator-like rule, I think.
Darnation! I blame autocorrect; I assure you as a proud Scotsman (and Englishman and Irishman), I do know the difference!Was she campaigning in Ireland?
Welcome to Scotland in 2022. Do as I say, not as I do.It's an absolutely ludicrous and dictator-like rule, I think.
Seems like an odd choice to limit your options to such an extent just because of an alcohol ban which isn't really enforced.I am glad I have read this thread. If I visit Scotland, I will avoid ScotRail and travel with CrossCountry instead. A dry train is not a happy train for me.
What does seem odd is poorly written guidance that just gets ignored.Seems like an odd choice to limit your options to such an extent just because of an alcohol ban which isn't really enforced.
I'm any case, as has been suggested upthread, you'll probably be fine having a drink on the train anyway. Most guards will turn a blind eye to it unless you're being rowdy. I've not had any issues in recent months while having a few beers on my journey.
One thing I did notice in that article, is that it possibly highlights a lack of BTP. The train was heading to Balloch, but police couldn’t come as there was a trespass incident at Hillington West, all the way down the river, on another route.Stories like this one are unlikely to encourage ScotRail to change their alcohol policy:
ScotRail staff threatened to boycott Glasgow route due to behaviour of 'young team'
The ticket examiner said she feels her safety is being jeopardised every day at work and that it’s taking its toll on her mental and physical…www.heraldscotland.com
Probably.Stories like this one are unlikely to encourage ScotRail to change their alcohol policy:
ScotRail staff threatened to boycott Glasgow route due to behaviour of 'young team'
The ticket examiner said she feels her safety is being jeopardised every day at work and that it’s taking its toll on her mental and physical…www.heraldscotland.com
It's pretty obvious what the rules are and what's tolerated.What does seem odd is poorly written guidance that just gets ignored.
Which is the whole problem. What else do people just start to ignore as they don't like it?
ScotRail are just doing what they're told by the bill payer, the Scottish Government, which fits their world view.
Do you stick rigidly to all rules including the not buying and consuming another drink while already drunk rule? Sometimes it's easier to just have a rule that covers all areas, rather than have multiple of exceptions for a million different scenarios and locations.So what's the point of rules if you can choose to ignore them?
Ask the Prime Minister, and the MP for Paisley and Renfrewshire South I suppose...
Seems like an odd choice to limit your options to such an extent just because of an alcohol ban which isn't really enforced.
I'm any case, as has been suggested upthread, you'll probably be fine having a drink on the train anyway. Most guards will turn a blind eye to it unless you're being rowdy. I've not had any issues in recent months while having a few beers on my journey.
Ask the Prime Minister, and the MP for Paisley and Renfrewshire South I suppose...
Merseyrail also has a no alcohol drinking rule, and they very much do enforce it, including escalations which otherwise wouldn't happen.I very much assume the rule is there so when people are disruptive, then there is some backing for officials to take action on said offenders. Most guards are probably taking this common sense approach.
I'm sure someone having a quiet beer on the way home from work or holiday won't be bothered, as it only serves to potentially cause an escalation which would never have happened.