They can’t really on any train unless half of them want to stand.
Quite easily do it on one of our spacious 150’s!
They can’t really on any train unless half of them want to stand.
It's from the Class 397 thread where someone mentioned that after looking at the seating plans the only wheelchair space was in First Class, no worriesI’m a bit confused as to what’s happened in the thread now. I wasn’t aware it was a merged thread when I posted this. If that was your original question then it’s a perfectly valid one. Hope no offence was taken.
"thankfully"...?if I had any disability either mental or physical (thankfully I have neither)
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Isn’t it the case that technically railway staff on free passes can use first if their pass allows but generally must not avail themselves of the catering?
There is some serious Shires pettiness and Little England curtain-twitch on this thread.
Give them the cup of tea and biscuit, and some respect... show some human kindness.
Would you willingly swap positions? First class (not a seat but a plot for their chair) and a free cuppa, for working legs? Oh how privileged they are!
I doubt it - so cut them some slack, and most importantly, mind your damn business.
If you can think of a better title, go to Thread Tools at the top and choose one. Note that titles do need to be descriptive.My original question was simply "how does the wheelchair space in First Class only work"...? Any merged thread title is nothing to do with me!
It wasn't merged with another thread, but if anyone has any questions feel free to use the 'Contact Us' form at the bottom of each page....I wasn’t aware it was a merged thread when I posted this....
ThanksIf you can think of a better title, go to Thread Tools at the top and choose one. Note that titles do need to be descriptive.
It wasn't merged with another thread, but if anyone has any questions feel free to use the 'Contact Us' form at the bottom of each page.
Exactly , if I was working a train in this situation and somebody questioned why someone in a wheelchair was in first on a standard ticket and getting any complimentary offering that was specified for first class I would first tell them to mind their own business about what ticket someone else may or may not have , and then I would ask them about swapping places with the person in the chair .
I highly doubt it . Ive been reported for being "rude" in the past when I found a passenger had placed all their luggage in the wheelchair space and initially refused to move it to allow for a passenger in a wheelchair to board . I was pointedly blunt with said passenger and never denied being so at any point . Indeed there was actually body cam footage from another member of railway staff who was present in that instance .And hopefully if employed by that TOC, you'd receive a warning for being so rude to passengers.
What happens if the only wheelchair spaces are in first class and standard class users have been upgraded and then someone with a first class ticket requires the space?
I think they mean STD wheelchair users have been upgraded and no 1st class wheelchair spaces are available, and a wheelchair user holding a 1st class ticket then wants to boardI don't believe I have ever seen a train where First Class was still in operation (i.e. not declassified, either officially or unofficially) where First Class was so packed with standing passengers that unless you removed a wheelchair from it you wouldn't get all the paying First Class passengers within its confines. Or do you mean the companion? That is an official upgrade and so they are a First Class passenger.
I think they mean STD wheelchairs have been upgraded and no 1st class wheelchair spaces are available, and a wheelchair user holding a 1st class ticket then wants to board
I don't believe I have ever seen a train where First Class was still in operation (i.e. not declassified, either officially or unofficially) where First Class was so packed with standing passengers that unless you removed a wheelchair from it you wouldn't get all the paying First Class passengers within its confines. Or do you mean the companion? That is an official upgrade and so they are a First Class passenger.
Why do people on here so like playing the "what if game"What happens if the only wheelchair spaces are in first class and standard class users have been upgraded and then someone with a first class ticket requires the space?
There was a recent road show at various depots showing the new 1st class offering and it was alot more than tea and biscuits. Lots of nice new complimentary drinks and food.
Why do people on here so like playing the "what if game"
How about simply assuming that rail staff on the ground can cope and come to and equitable solution rather than worrying a bone to death with possible but unlikely scenarios ?
Why do people on here so like playing the "what if game"
How about simply assuming that rail staff on the ground can cope and come to and equitable solution rather than worrying a bone to death with possible but unlikely scenarios ?
As of Friday 15/02, weekdaysIs there a Pullman dining service on an IET working?
Thanks. Is the dining in first class? If so I'd imagine a wheelchair user who had been upgraded would also be offered the full compliments?As of Friday 15/02, weekdays
16:00 Penzance-Paddington (from Plymouth), 10 car 802.
12:03 Paddington-Penzance (presumably as far as Plymouth), 10 car 802.
18:03 Paddington-Penzance (as far as Plymouth), 10 car 802, splits Plymouth.
05:59 Swansea-Paddington, 9 car 800
10:45 Paddington-Swansea, 10 car 800 (why 10:45 though?)
Obviously, currently up the wall due to Whiteball closure.
Thanks. Is the dining in first class? If so I'd imagine a wheelchair user who had been upgraded would also be offered the full compliments?
It's obviously wrong too to suggest that wheelchair users just "turn up", other than on a tiny proportion of the network, that's physically impossible.
See that's discriminatory. An able bodied person can just turn up at a station and get on a train. Full equality means that a physically disabled person should be able to as well.It's obviously wrong too to suggest that wheelchair users just "turn up", other than on a tiny proportion of the network, that's physically impossible.
Indeed. It is available to anyone on board, regardless of class of ticket held, if they payOnly if they pay for it like anyone else - it's a restaurant on rails and isn't complimentary.
Which coach is the dining service in on an IET though that's what I'm getting at? First-class or do they take orders from seated customers in standard?Indeed. It is available to anyone on board, regardless of class of ticket held, if they pay
Don't they serve a hot meal on VTWC that is complimentary? That's why I ask as I assumed it was the same sort of arrangement.Only if they pay for it like anyone else - it's a restaurant on rails and isn't complimentary.