theageofthetra
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Are any London Underground services stopping early or not running whole lines tonight? Staff shortages etc
Is there any legal scope in the UK for imposition of a curfew?
Surely this was enough to shut down the railway in that part of Wales and send everyone home before evening?
It is open to the highway authority (county council, unitary authority, TfL on some roads in Greater London, or the SoS on some roads, including motorways) to make give a notice "because of the likelihood of danger to the public" prohibiting or restricting traffic. This can make most of the provisions a normal traffic order can, and it can certainly include a prohibition of traffic, with or without exceptions, but it would ordinarily have to be signed. Arguably if you erect signs at every entry to an area to the prescribed design for a prohibition of motor vehicles, it is then validly signed, even as against people already in the area. That is probably not practicable. The SoS can authorise non-standard signage, although it might be starting to become an attempt to dispense with the statutory requirement to sign local order restrictions before they are enforceable if he authorised partial signing of an order or notice.
Isn't that what was mainly done at least in some parts of the country?
I know arriva trains wales closed down at least the valley lines fairly early - I think the last train from Cardiff to Treherbert was 3.36pm. Not sure on other routes mind you.
So practically, I guess "no" then. A curfew, as often imposed in the US when big storms are coming, normally also involves a ban on pedestrians.
What rationale does VTWC have for not running replacement buses still? My friend has been waiting for 3 days to get back to Glasgow and is now on the Megabus which are running. I understand maybe not stopping at Lockerbie etc but the M74 is clear now?
Well with the network having been down for 2-3 days, it would presumably be a huge undertaking to source and staff a load of rail replacement buses. Coach drivers would have to get from home to depots, and coaches would have to get from depots to stations. Bus and coach services are still disrupted and so many will not have the spare staff or coaches to give over to rail replacement. Factor in the number of people who might want to use these too and I think it's sensible to wait overnight.
It's interesting to see that the only TOC listed on NRE to be running a normal service today is Great Northern. All the rest (understandably) have alterations and cancellations to their services.
Cambridge and Ely have had remarkably little snow (so far, touch wood ). In general it's never snowed here for more than a few hours continuously, so it hasn't really built up when it has snowed. Wednesday morning was probably the worst, but main roads were running fine again by Wednesday lunchtime. I *think* the same is true heading north towards King's Lynn, but I can only base that claim on occasionally looking at weather forecasts/radars!They said that on Tuesday which I was really surprised at considering they go through Ely and the fens and the East of England was supposed to have it bad?
What rationale does VTWC have for not running replacement buses still? My friend has been waiting for 3 days to get back to Glasgow and is now on the Megabus which are running. I understand maybe not stopping at Lockerbie etc but the M74 is clear now?
Not sure if this has been mentioned:
https://twitter.com/firstgw_00/status/969520851099021312?s=21
Sea Wall at Dawlish damaged.
The North Downs line is suspended today. Is this due to the weather?
No, not entirely. Cracked points between Wokingham and Blackwater. Closed from March 1st to 12th.
I suspect they actually mean "until further notice."The M62 motorway, where hundreds of snowbound drivers had to spend the night in their vehicles, will remain closed indefinitely, police say.
The army was deployed to help rescue motorists, some stuck for more than 12 hours, as winds speeds reached 90mph on the Rakewood Viaduct near Rochdale.
The motorway is shut in both directions between junctions 20 and 24 because of snow, ice and high winds.
They say heavy snow and wind. Anyone know where the heavy snow will likely be. Looking at Guildford, BBC suggest lite snow. However trains run to many other places where it might be expected to be worse.SWR have said they will close the railway at 20:00 tonight and Southern have said they will start shutting down at 15:00.
Southeastern have said not to travel east of Ashford.
Just waiting for the GWR cancelations now.