I have it is true I was on a 313 while writing that
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Southern Class 313 withdrawal/storage/scrapping updates
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WesternLancer
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Yes, the point is we know that it is true! The issue is that the post to which it referred (post 378) was misinterpreted as that poster was actually saying (albeit not clearly so I also misunderstood it) that it was a shame all the seats were in bays when uni direction would be better as it keeps the feet off the seats more effectively (this was in response to a post I made above that about the interiors being very grubby) - all you have done is perpetuate the misunderstanding
- I'm sure not intentionally of course.IE no one on this thread has actually said the 313s do not have seats in bays that face each other, but several of us thought that was what post 378 was saying.
But anyway - probably not one to dwell much further on as we enjoy the latter days of the 313s
I just wish Southern would get them clean!
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16 August 1976; as an aside that was notable for being Madonna's 18th birthday and exactly one year before Elvis died. Shows how long the 313s have been around!
So if Elvis was into travelling around north London on trains (not that he was...) he could have wound up on a 313.
I realise this is probably a dumb point, but the 701s have 10 carriages? Didn't realise that I have to admit.
That itself seems inflexible and a strange decision. If they had them as say 5-car units, they could run them in pairs when needed or singly when not. Would also permit "loans" to the South London lines such as is being suggested here, without losing so much capacity. The whole strength of multiple-units, surely, is that they, erm... work in multiple. They allow train length to be tailored to demand in a fine-grained manner. The whole of the Southern Region and NSE was founded on that concept!
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WesternLancer
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Those 313s will certainly have seen a few pairs of of flared trousers in their time, even if not Elvis's
not to mention a vast number of other fashions since!
If walls could talk.
Ah right, ok, thanks. Was just responding to the post which suggested that SWR "loaning" N 701s to the South London metro lines would require N*10 coaches.
Islineclear3_1
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313.208 on Hove shuttles today
211, 212, 213 and a 377 on the pompys
211, 212, 213 and a 377 on the pompys
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High Dyke
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201, 210, 211 and 213 on Seaford services, so far today.
- 313201 departing Lewes.
- 313210 after terminating at Newhaven Harbour.
- 313207 at Brighton.
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207 failed at Worthing today due to the sanding hose coming loose and dragging on the 4ft.
Islineclear3_1
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First for scrap (?) unless 217 is earmarked...
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It’s astonishing how many people take the word of absolutely anyone as gospel as to what will happen with a particular fleet. Drivers aren’t privy to what fleet management decisions are being taken and even less so when there’s an external party (the ROSCO) involved as to decisions on disposals.
I did say next
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I saw all but 202,214,217 in a week last week but appears those 3 aren't coming out maybe finished with?
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214 and 217 are currently stored...
Islineclear3_1
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That's why I put a question mark after my post (?) as it was a generic question
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This has now been reduced to 9 diagrams from December.
TT-ONR-NRN
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Can I politely ask where you got this information from?
With 3 more 377/3 diagrams im guessing
that1pepfan
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I've been Told 313214 has been stored - is this true
Islineclear3_1
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Without starting a new thread, can anyone point me to a detailed labelled technical diagram of a 313 front end and below-underframe equipment please? I've tried googling without any success
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Islineclear3_1
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Thanks, you can PM me
I've now edited the thread title to include withdrawal updates
I will check my notes tonight but it appears 313.202, 214, 217 and 220 haven't moved for some time
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that1pepfan
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202 is not stored it was out some point last week I saw it
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There was a post on se-gen ( e-mail group ) earlier this week stating that 313 217 has been withdrawn and is being used as a source of spares. That seems to tie in with the lack of movement reported above in this thread - but can it be confirmed?
that1pepfan
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I'll ask my friend who works for SN about it
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I spoke to someone VERY much in the know last week and he has said NO 313s have been withdrawn yet.
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