At least they are extending some trains to 10 coaches.
So many West Coastway services that are schedulef to run are cancelled I doubt that anybody notices.
regularly take one to Brighton and 4 cars would be sufficient mid morning even in high summer so outside of summer season 12 cars is excessive
I know its not fashionable anymore to reduce formations midday thats my conditioning from being bought up on the SR where were constantly knocking off 2 or 4 cars to the sidings after the morning peak and then getting them all out again for the evening. Wouldn't have the drivers now!!
Or the sidings (at the London end).
It could be debated that New Cross Gate to Sydenham is already well served by 8tph London Overground services which provide better connections into central London via the Jubilee, DLR and Elizabeth line, so it looks like Southern is trying to provide services to Metro stations that have a vastly lower frequency service than those served by the ELL.
Yes that route is a low priority for Southern, but it just causes more overcrowding in general. Such as Anerley passengers getting a bus to Crystal Palace and changing there, or Selhurst/South Norwood passengers all crowding onto the Caterham/Tattenham Corner trains at Norwood Junction, or loads of passengers changing for the Jubilee line at Canada Water or the Elizabeth line at Whitechapel. It sounds like an overreaction, but trust me those services will be ram-jammed.
The 9Rxx's to Bedford get plenty of custom at Norwood Jcn but the 700's are never crowded out. Its still quicker to sit on an LO train if you want the East side of London.
Oooohh that’s where you’re wrong. I travel on that route occasionally and those trains are very crowded (granted I do travel in the peak hours), subject to disruption very frequently, and sometimes runs at 8 coaches which causes absolute chaos at times.
The 9R's are my trains into London and as I say Norwood Jcn generates good levels of demand and probably really make the service viable since its been turned over to 12 cars (yes there are some 8's) in the off peak but a 700/1 can easily lose those people in its a voluminous capacity. So with the extra fast services at Norwood Jcn i would have switched the 9R's to call at New Cross Gate instead to improve connectivity into the East of London.
It was the one disadvantage of the Thameslink upgrade that New Cross Gate lost their 2tph slots on the fast.
I was just editing the pages for Anerley, Penge West, Crystal Palace and Forest Hill. Nice to see others helping out as well!
Yes I have already done LBG and Victoria ahead of the change! I have kept the current pattern but have also written the new one out and will delete outdated one accordingly tomorrow
I’m lucky to be living on the Victoria-Epsom Downs route, no disruptions! We only lost the extra 2tph terminating at Sutton but this is relatively benign compared to other stuff going on.
0708, 0738 and 0808 from Victoria convey a Gatwick portion as do the 1608, 1638, 1708, 1738, 1808 and 1838. The rear part of the last four of these runs to Three Bridges.
Yes but not all of these ran before the new timetable
Yes, 0708, 1608 and 1838 restored.
Unfortunately won't change any time soon
The 0732 BTN - WWO is now booked a 4 car 387. Most GX are 8 cars with 387s on more coastway work.
If you think that's funny, there was a 4 car 387 doing Brighton to Hove Shuttles on Saturday 20th August
If you think that's funny, there was a 4 car 387 doing Brighton to Hove Shuttles on Saturday 20th August
That's the one!
I believe that was a strike day, on strike days the Hove Shuttle is a 387If you think that's funny, there was a 4 car 387 doing Brighton to Hove Shuttles on Saturday 20th August
Once I was at Sutton station at some point in June or July (I forgot the exact date) where an early morning Horsham train was a 12 car GX 387.
