Staff Mess Rooms - not accessible to the public...
just reading the title and nothing else here, this is a similar statement to an Asda staff room not being accessible to the public. why should it be?
Staff Mess Rooms - not accessible to the public...
Yes, but rail workers are about the only lot who actually get separate toilets etc etc.
The obvious example is bus or coach driving (in the sticks, not London) where there are no special toilets or messrooms whatsoever.
Unless you work there, then you probably wouldn't see the staff toilets in a shop, as they'd be behind a door that only staff have access to. Like the stockroom - you rarely see those but they obviously exist!I've never seen shops etc with staff toilets.
Unless you work there, then you probably wouldn't see the staff toilets in a shop, as they'd be behind a door that only staff have access to. Like the stockroom - you rarely see those but they obviously exist!
Even office workers will have toilets in the office block, that random members of the public can't just walk in past reception and use.
The obvious example is bus or coach driving (in the sticks, not London) where there are no special toilets or messrooms whatsoever.
I suppose offices count as segregated toilets if there are no public allowed in the offices?
Before joining the railway I worked in a major supermarket, a chain pub and a DIY chain and all had seperate toilets and staff break rooms. In fact, at the pub we were not allowed to have a break in the public bar or use public toilets in uniform.
Similar experience here too, and definitely separate staff areas. It's common sense!
Worth pointing out, that safety critical staff are required to have breaks Away from the work environment, also that when there are "luxury" facilities like Sky TV provided, this is usually through the Unions. Typically, this means leasing a fruit machine, and reinvesting the profits.
Lothian have a load of toilets around Edinburgh which are for the use of drivers only.
I may be misunderstanding something here but what exactly is the problem with having staff areas away from the public?
Similar experience here too, and definitely separate staff areas. It's common sense!
Worth pointing out, that safety critical staff are required to have breaks Away from the work environment
I think the problem is quite simply that passengers find it greatly offensive to ask "where are the toilets please" only to be told "no toilets here sorry" and then for that staff member to go facilitate himself in the finest bone china.
If we have something you don't it causes immense upset
With the greatest of respect though, a passenger may be on the train for a 30min journey, before reaching their destination and continuing with the rest of their day. A driver/guard will be stuck on board that train for maybe two 5 hour stints continuously with minimal turnarounds at stations without toilets, perhaps - especially on London/Glasgow suburban routes - with no inboard toilets. So when you're doing 5hrs continuous with no access to a toilet, I don't think it unreasonable for staff to expect clean toilets in their accommodation that is free of vandalism, which is an almost certainty when toilets are left unattended at unstaffed stations or after station staff have gone home after opening hours.I think the problem is quite simply that passengers find it greatly offensive to ask "where are the toilets please" only to be told "no toilets here sorry" and then for that staff member to go facilitate himself in the finest bone china.
Certainly the case on my TOC 'for security reasons', regardless of whether it's a major station or a portakabin-esque depot in the countryside - even if you are based at the depot you are in and on duty in full uniform, it is still a disciplinary offence to not display in view a valid photo ID. To be caught letting members of the public in, even if only to use the facilities, wouldn't go down well whatsoever....Of course, staff messrooms are restricted areas, so all people in there must have an ID card or be accompanied, and I've been given to believe off-duty staff present in there would be subject to the same drugs & alcohol policy as if they were on duty.
Certainly the case on my TOC 'for security reasons', regardless of whether it's a major station or a portakabin-esque depot in the countryside - even if you are based at the depot you are in and on duty in full uniform, it is still a disciplinary offence to not display in view a valid photo ID. To be caught letting members of the public in, even if only to use the facilities, wouldn't go down well whatsoever....
Driver on a Stagecoach-owned TOC.Same rules here. Are you CTRL then? Channel tunnel security order and all that.
Driver on a Stagecoach-owned TOC.