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MidnightFlyer

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I know the following summits exist on various lines, but can anyone think of anymore (Crainmore I think is on Girvan-Stranraer line too)? I know there is one in the middle of the Midland Main Line and on the Berks & Hants. Anyway, what I know:

Shap (Prston-Carlisle)
Sugar Loaf (Llandovery-Llandrindod)
Tring (Watford-Milton Keynes)
Dutchlands (Amersham-Aylesbury)
Talerddig (Newtown-Machynlleth)
Ais Gill (Settle-Appelby)
Curror (Crainlarich-Fort William)
Slochd (Aviemore-Inverness)

Any more?
 
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I know the following summits exist on various lines, but can anyone think of anymore (Crainmore I think is on Girvan-Stranraer line too)? I know there is one in the middle of the Midland Main Line and on the Berks & Hants. Anyway, what I know:

Shap (Prston-Carlisle)
Sugar Loaf (Llandovery-Llandrindod)
Tring (Watford-Milton Keynes)
Dutchlands (Amersham-Aylesbury)
Talerddig (Newtown-Machynlleth)
Ais Gill (Settle-Appelby)
Curror (Crainlarich-Fort William)
Slochd (Aviemore-Inverness)

Any more?
Sharnbrook (kettering-bedford)
 

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Stoke (Peterborough-Grantham, Mallard's record was descending the southern side)
Grantshouse (Berwick-Dunbar)
Dainton (just west of Newton Abbott)
Rattery (west of Totness)
Hemerdon (between Plympton and Plymouth)
Whiteball (Taunton-Tiverton, City of Truro hit 100 mph here [allegedly] when going east [really north])
 

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Cross-Pennine:

Cowburn (Stockport-Sheffield)
Standedge (Stalybridge-Huddersfield
Summit (Rochdale-Todmorden
Gargrave(Skipton-Hellifield
Brampton (Hexham-Carlisle)
some would also count Grayrigg (Oxenholme-Tebay)

Peak Forest and Hindlow near Buxton (freight) are still operational
Cobbinshaw (Carstairs-Edinburgh)

lots of others
 

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Stoke (Peterborough-Grantham, Mallard's record was descending the southern side)
Grantshouse (Berwick-Dunbar)
Dainton (just west of Newton Abbott)
Rattery (west of Totness)
Hemerdon (between Plympton and Plymouth)
Whiteball (Taunton-Tiverton, City of Truro hit 100 mph here [allegedly] when going east [really north])
Rattery and Hemerdon are just the banks, the sumit is between the two at Wrangaton. If you want to be pedantic there is a slight fall in gradient east of Hemerdon but it is brief and the climb then continues to Wrangaton.
 
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Rattery and Hemerdon are just the banks, the sumit is between the two at Wrangaton. If you want to be pedantic there is a slight fall in gradient east of Hemerdon but it is brief and the climb then continues to Wrangton.

Aha! Well, it is a bit outside my territory.

Anyway, would New Southgate count as the top of the bank out of King's Cross? Mind you, it is a bit of a switchback over the hills there. Southgate is the first, followed by Hadley Wood then Woolmer Green, leading to a gentle descent into Hitchin and practically dead flat to Peterborough (hence it being a fast stretch). There also has to be some sort of summit between Northallerton and Durham. Durham is quite high up, and the line runs downhill from there to Newcastle (but is still highish there).
 

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Anyway, would New Southgate count as the top of the bank out of King's Cross?
Having recently cycled from Kings Cross to New Southgate, the only hills I was really aware of would not have applied to the railway (Alexandra Palace park, Muswell Hill and the climb north of N.Southgate station towards Friern Barnet). I think Kings Cross will be about 25-30mtrs above sea level and reaching 60mtrs by New Southgate with most of that climb being north of Alexandra Palace Stn.
. . . . There also has to be some sort of summit between Northallerton and Durham. Durham is quite high up, and the line runs downhill from there to Newcastle (but is still highish there).
Yes, but I'd hardly call it a summit. One of the reasons for the ECML having so many twists and turns between Darlington and Durham is that it follows natural contours so consistently.
Darlington station must be about 50mtrs above sea level. The line climbs very gently to a high of about 88mtrs between Aycliffe and Ferryhill and then gradually down to Durham station at 70mtrs above sea level. It descends very gradually thereafter to Chester -le-Street at about 50mtrs and then to Newcastle at about 20mtrs.
I think you'd struggle to see anything there that you'd want to call a summit.

Re: Grantshouse (Berwick-Dunbar). If it wasn't for the cutting, I think the line might reach 120mtrs just north of Grantshouse which is certainly more of a 'highest point' between two opposing ascents, though once again, there is not as noticeable a 'peak' there as in some of the other examples above. Even Stoke only seems to reach 100mtrs! And that is about as much of a climb out of Grantham as it is from the better known climb from the fens to the south!
 
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There's even this at the station...

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Some in Scotland:

Wanlockhead (1498 feet) originally a Caledonian Branch, now the terminus of the Leadhills & Wanlockhead Railway (narrow gauge)
Drumochter (1484 feet) Highland Main Line
Corrour (1350 feet) West Highland Line
Slochd (1315 feet) Highland Main Line
Dava (1052 feet) old Highland Main line via Forres - closed
Beattock (1033 feet) Caledonian Main Line
Whitrope (1006 feet) Waverley Route - closed.
County March (Tyndrum) (approx 980 feet) West Highland Line
Luib (646 feet) Kyle of Lochalsh line

Don't know if we should count the Cairngorm funicular at 3599 feet!
 

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Then of course there are the preserved line summits.
NYMR - Goathland Summit at 532ft
Which if you consider a train from Whitby having to climb from about 18ft at Whitby in about 12 miles. This is quite a formidable climb for any line.
 
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would like to know the highest point in Wales?What about the station at Ebbw Vale Parkway - that's going to be high up isn't it, as is Rhymney. But are there other locations in Wales higher than these two?
 

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would like to know the highest point in Wales?What about the station at Ebbw Vale Parkway - that's going to be high up isn't it, as is Rhymney. But are there other locations in Wales higher than these two?

On NR, I think it would be the Cwmbargoed coal loading site above Merthyr (branches off the Rhymney line at Ystrad Mynach), probably above 350m/1120ft-ish.

In North Wales probably the summit inside the Ffestiniog Tunnel just north of Blaenau at 242m/794ft.

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I guess that being "off network" Snowdon and Cairngorm don't count? :lol::lol::p
 

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Cairngorm? No, probably not.
But it does give me an excuse to tell of an incident last year on the climb to one of those summits - Slochd.
I was travelling on the Chieftan HST out of Inverness and was very surprised at our unusually high speed on the climb. Its only 20 miles or so from (near) sea level to 400mtrs at Slochd and it includes the steady climb and right hand bend over the Culloden Viaduct. I had never been subjected to as much outwards centrifugal force as we turned over the Nairn valley or as much speed on our climb up towards Moy.
It really showed me what an HST set (with their nice shiny new MTU engines) can do.
But one of the engines cut out. Twice, in fact, before we'd even reached Carrbridge (where, perhaps due to our high speed, we were held at a signal just before Carrbridge loop).
The driver got a bit of 'flak' when we reached Edinburgh, along the lines of "You've broken it!"

That was the most impressive run at a summit that I can recall from recent times. Shame the power units weren't up to it!
 
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