SWR: Guards/RMT Industrial Action. Next strike dates: 30/31 August, 1/2 September 2019

[Mag_seven]

If anyone is wondering the relevance of the dates they are the three busiest days of Royal Ascot.

Hitting the toffs?

 

[theironroad]

Hitting the toffs?

The vast majority of people going to Ascot are not 'toffs'.

The funniest thing about Ascot is that late morning and early afternoon is that lots of sober, dressed up people trundle down to Ascot and by the end of the day most are far from sober, often half undressed and often extremely obnoxious and rude to other passengers and staff. Not all obviously, but it's eye opening.

 

[Goldfish62]

The vast majority of people going to Ascot are not 'toffs'.

The funniest thing about Ascot is that late morning and early afternoon is that lots of sober, dressed up people trundle down to Ascot and by the end of the day most are far from sober, often half undressed and often extremely obnoxious and rude to other passengers and staff. Not all obviously, but it's eye opening.

Agreed. Not many toffs at Royal Ascot. I go every year, but avoid Thursday, Friday and Saturday like the plague as the behaviour is appalling. Drug taking, fights, shagging, you name it. The prices have been hiked and number of tickets sales restricted, presumably to try to shake off its poor reputation.

As ever, of course, it's a prominent minority that spoil it for everyone else

 

[Matt Taylor]

If anyone is wondering the relevance of the dates they are the three busiest days of Royal Ascot. Queues for the 6-8 tph after racing finishes on the Saturday can be up to two hours long

Also covering the first three days of the Isle Of Wight Festival.

 

[Kite159]

Anyhow as I'm heading up to London on the Friday, I suspect it will be something similar with the West of England services being hourly with some peak time extras?

 

[infobleep]

Also covering the first three days of the Isle Of Wight Festival.

I wonder which days of the Isle of Wight are most popular for travelling? Coming back I'd have thought the Monday. Maybe they could and held an additional strike on the Monday.

How about Thursday, Saturday and Monday.

I'm pleased to see this strike includes a Saturday. Most strikes only seem to happen Monday to Friday. Why shouldn't a Saturday or Sunday be included from time to time.

 

[theironroad]

Also covering the first three days of the Isle Of Wight Festival.

Oh, I hadn't realised that. Going to be interesting seeing as many of the trains serving all three mainland ports get pretty busy in a normal year.

 

[pompeyfan]

I wonder which days of the Isle of Wight are most popular for travelling? Coming back I'd have thought the Monday. Maybe they could and held an additional strike on the Monday.

How about Thursday, Saturday and Monday.

I'm pleased to see this strike includes a Saturday. Most strikes only seem to happen Monday to Friday. Why shouldn't a Saturday or Sunday be included from time to time.

At a guess, weekend strikes (certainly Sunday’s) would have less impact because there’s fewer trains running, which in turn means they need fewer contingency/non striking guards, you also lose the secondary effect of the office hours of the management which need to be caught up on. On a Saturday or Sunday typically management/office staff won’t usually work, so won’t have work to catch up on.

 

[Warwick]

"Toffs" don't take the train to Ascot, only the common people do. Toffs travel to Ascot by Bentley/Range Rover/other upmarket vehicles and helicopter. Thanks to the stupid RMT going on strike over "safety" more people will be using the more unsafe roads.

 

[387star]

Agreed. Not many toffs at Royal Ascot. I go every year, but avoid Thursday, Friday and Saturday like the plague as the behaviour is appalling. Drug taking, fights, shagging, you name it. The prices have been hiked and number of tickets sales restricted, presumably to try to shake off its poor reputation.

As ever, of course, it's a prominent minority that spoil it for everyone else

Sounds awful

 

[infobleep]

At a guess, weekend strikes (certainly Sunday’s) would have less impact because there’s fewer trains running, which in turn means they need fewer contingency/non striking guards, you also lose the secondary effect of the office hours of the management which need to be caught up on. On a Saturday or Sunday typically management/office staff won’t usually work, so won’t have work to catch up on.

It's a shame there is away of affecting them more on Sundays. That way any day of the week would be affected.

So will this strike on the Saturday have no or little impact on management time?

 

[westv]

As someone who is likely to have to cart himself from Waterloo to Guildford come July, are these problems likely to affect me if it carries on?

 

[Adsy125]

Does anyone know when the timetables are likely to be released?

 

[Goldfish62]

As someone who is likely to have to cart himself from Waterloo to Guildford come July, are these problems likely to affect me if it carries on?

I imagine it will be a feature until further notice.

I wouldn't worry too much. My own experience is that away from the extremities of the network and the quieter lines the disruption is minimal.

 

[Goldfish62]

It's a shame there is away of affecting them more on Sundays. That way any day of the week would be affected.

So will this strike on the Saturday have no or little impact on management time?

It will on the Saturday due to the enhanced Ascot service.

There was a strike on a Sunday and from what I recall a normal service operated.

 

[Goldfish62]

"Toffs" don't take the train to Ascot, only the common people do. Toffs travel to Ascot by Bentley/Range Rover/other upmarket vehicles and helicopter. Thanks to the stupid RMT going on strike over "safety" more people will be using the more unsafe roads.

They'll have to cover the Ascot services for safety reasons, due to the sheer crowds that need moving quickly. I also imagine the enhanced services are funded by the racecourse. I would guess that services elsewhere will be more depleted than on previous strike days.

 

[Helvellyn]

This could get messy if they have gone for Royal Ascot/IoW festival weekend. Wouldn't surprise me if things don't improve between SWR and RMT to see something announced affecting a number of days w/c 2nd July - that would impact Hampton Court Flower Show and the first week of Wimbledon Tennis. If they did something w/c 9th July that is the second week of Wimbledon and w/c 16th July is Farnborough Air Show. Late June/Early July is effectively one special event after another on the SWR network and strike action has the double whammy because Managers volunteer to add support for these events, so this stretches the ability to provide that support and run the trains.

 

[theironroad]

As someone who is likely to have to cart himself from Waterloo to Guildford come July, are these problems likely to affect me if it carries on?

On the basis of the past strike days, Guildford will still get plenty of trains.

 

[theironroad]

This could get messy if they have gone for Royal Ascot/IoW festival weekend. Wouldn't surprise me if things don't improve between SWR and RMT to see something announced affecting a number of days w/c 2nd July - that would impact Hampton Court Flower Show and the first week of Wimbledon Tennis. If they did something w/c 9th July that is the second week of Wimbledon and w/c 16th July is Farnborough Air Show. Late June/Early July is effectively one special event after another on the SWR network and strike action has the double whammy because Managers volunteer to add support for these events, so this stretches the ability to provide that support and run the trains.

As I guess swr won't pick up the bill, I guess the events volunteers will be replaced by zero hour agency staff to free managers to guard.

 

[Drogba11CFC]

They've also gone for the model railway exhibition at the Bluebell Railway just as their XC counterparts went after Warley weekend last November; dogs in mangers spring to mind.

 

[theironroad]

They've also gone for the model railway exhibition at the Bluebell Railway just as their XC counterparts went after Warley weekend last November; dogs in mangers spring to mind.

Who's 'gone for'?

Firstly,the bluebell railway isn't on swr turf and second, a model railway exhibition isn't exactly in the same scale as Ascot or iow festival.

 

[Drogba11CFC]

It might not be, but I'll still be travelling there from Winchester, which is SWR turf.

 

[Matt Taylor]

Strikes suspended I hear.

 

[Goldfish62]

Strikes suspended I hear.

Yes, it's on SWR's website.

 

[swt_passenger]

It's a shame there is away of affecting them more on Sundays. That way any day of the week would be affected.

That doesn’t make any sense as written. Did you perhaps mean “... there is not a way of...”?

 

[infobleep]

That doesn’t make any sense as written. Did you perhaps mean “... there is not a way of...”?

Indeed, there should have been a not there.

 

[theironroad]

Thread update:

RMT strike action is planned on the following dates:
• 0001 Hours and 2359 Hours on Thursday 26 July 2018
• 0001 Hours and 2359 Hours on Saturday 28 July 2018
• 0001 Hours and 2359 Hours on Tuesday 31 July 2018
• 0001 Hours and 2359 Hours on Saturday 4 August 2018
• 0001 Hours and 2359 Hours on Saturday 11 August 2018
• 0001 Hours and 2359 Hours on Saturday 18 August 2018
• 0001 Hours on Friday 31 August 2018 and 2359 Hours on Saturday 1 September 2018

 

[pemma]

Has Laura Smith forgotten that she represents an area served by Northern, ATW, Virgin, EMT and LNR? Plenty of more relevant questions she could ask in parliament!

Q
Asked by Laura Smith
(Crewe and Nantwich)
Asked on: 20 July 2018
Department for Transport
South Western Railway: Compensation
166508
To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, pursuant to the Answer of 28 June 2018 to Question 155260 on rail strikes, whether South Western Railway has made an application in the last 12 months to reimburse the company for revenues lost as a result of official industrial action.
A
Answered by: Joseph Johnson
Answered on: 25 July 2018
South Western Railway has made an application with regards to industrial action.

https://www.rmt.org.uk/news/south-western-could-be-paid-to-not-run-trains/

 

[theironroad]

Wow!

Saturday July 28 2018

No trains Bournemouth to Weymouth
Previously inputted Bus replacement service removed from journey planners.
Advice to use LOCAL bus service
No ticket acceptance.

 

[zoneking]

Pathetic - no trains to the resorts on a Summer Saturday.