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amazon1675

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Repaints were due. The units hadn't been repainted since new. if Stagecoach had retained the franchise the plan was to repaint the 450s into a blander version of SWT livery.

As for those units that are currently running around in SWT livery and not subject to the current repaint programme:

Class 455 - will be withdrawn once sufficient 701s in service. Last repaint was only a few years ago.
Class 458 - will be repainted when converted back to four cars.
Class 707 - moving to South Eastern
Class 158/159 - seemingly refurbishment /repaint not sanctioned by the DfT.
Is that confirmed about the 158/159 situation?
 

SouthWestMax

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I must admit I wasn’t a fan of the SWR livery when I first saw it. But it has really grown on me - in fact I really like it now. The later version of the 450 livery definitely looks better than the slightly older, non-compliant one. I suspect the rest of the 444s will have a similar thing with gaps in the blue band where it meets the doors as and when they get round to being painted.

I’ll still always retain a soft spot for SWT’s liveries though. And I would have liked to see what Stagecoach would have done had they kept the franchise.

That said, it does seem those who have the power to decide how our trains look aren’t interested in, or don’t want, creativity and boldness and rather would like to see more basic and transferable schemes. Which makes sense, but a shame nonetheless.

With regards to the ‘End Men’s Violence Against Women’ decals, they are appearing on a lot of 450s, apparently the following have it:

450003
450007
450020
450024
450039
450045
450047
450057
450060
450066
450068
450093
450096
450100

Regards.
 

Flange Squeal

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With regards to the ‘End Men’s Violence Against Women’ decals, they are appearing on a lot of 450s, apparently the following have it:

450003
450007
450020
450024
450039
450045
450047
450057
450060
450066
450068
450093
450096
450100

021 and 092 can also be added to the list. That’s 16 of what I understand to be 20 with/getting the charity logos accounted for.
 

Dan15812

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Messages
422
Location
SW
444s

002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 011, 012, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020, 021, 023, 024, 025, 027, 029, 030, 031, 032, 037, 038, 042 and 043 (27 units)(60% complete)

450s

001, 003, 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 010, 011, 013, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020, 021, 022, 023, 024, 025, 026, 027, 029, 030, 032, 033, 035, 034, 036, 037, 038, 039, 040, 041, 042, 043, 044, 045, 046*, 047, 048, 049, 051, 052, 053, 054, 055, 056, 057, 058, 060, 061, 062, 063, 064, 066, 067, 068, 069, 072, 073, 075, 076, 077, 081, 086, 087, 088, 089, 090, 091, 092, 093, 095, 096, 100, 101, 103, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 113, 115, 119, 120*, 122, 123, 124 and 127 (91 units)(72% complete)

Feel free to let me know of any more repainted Desiros.


Note: (* = Currently being done)

444040 and 450111 have had vinyl wrap (not been painted)
 
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444045

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I must admit I wasn’t a fan of the SWR livery when I first saw it. But it has really grown on me - in fact I really like it now. The later version of the 450 livery definitely looks better than the slightly older, non-compliant one. I suspect the rest of the 444s will have a similar thing with gaps in the blue band where it meets the doors as and when they get round to being painted.

I’ll still always retain a soft spot for SWT’s liveries though. And I would have liked to see what Stagecoach would have done had they kept the franchise.

That said, it does seem those who have the power to decide how our trains look aren’t interested in, or don’t want, creativity and boldness and rather would like to see more basic and transferable schemes. Which makes sense, but a shame nonetheless.

With regards to the ‘End Men’s Violence Against Women’ decals, they are appearing on a lot of 450s, apparently the following have it:

450003
450007
450020
450024
450039
450045
450047
450057
450060
450066
450068
450093
450096
450100

Regards.
Add U.450110 to the list, seen on the Lymington branch on Sun.
 

SouthWestMax

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Add U.450110 to the list, seen on the Lymington branch on Sun.
Tops, thanks for that. I did see it was back out and about in its new livery but didn't know if it had the decals.

So we now have:

450003
450007
450020
450021
450024
450039
450045
450047
450057
450060
450066
450068
450092
450093
450096
450100
450110

Confirmed to have decals. I imagine 450124 will come out of paint with them as well then?
 

444045

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Tops, thanks for that. I did see it was back out and about in its new livery but didn't know if it had the decals.

So we now have:

450003
450007
450020
450021
450024
450039
450045
450047
450057
450060
450066
450068
450092
450093
450096
450100
450110

Confirmed to have decals. I imagine 450124 will come out of paint with them as well then?
Quite possibly, noticed on the posters at Brockenhurst on Sunday that this Friday 25th November was the day that SWR were
devoting to ending mens violence against women.
 

SouthWestMax

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Quite possibly, noticed on the posters at Brockenhurst on Sunday that this Friday 25th November was the day that SWR were
devoting to ending mens violence against women.
Absolutely - I went to Brockenhurst yesterday and they had them. I saw 450043 also had the decals as well.
 

Dan15812

Member
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18 Oct 2018
Messages
422
Location
SW
444s

002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 011, 012, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020, 021, 023, 024, 025, 027, 029, 030, 031, 032, 037, 038, 042 and 043 (27 units)(60% complete)

450s

001, 002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 010, 011, 013, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020, 021, 022, 023, 024, 025, 026, 027, 028, 029, 030, 032, 033, 035, 034, 036, 037, 038, 039, 040, 041, 042, 043, 044, 045, 046, 047, 048, 049, 051, 052, 053, 054, 055, 056, 057, 058, 060, 061, 062, 063, 064, 066, 067, 068, 069, 070*, 072, 073, 075, 076, 077, 081, 086, 087, 088, 089, 090, 091, 092, 093, 095, 096, 100, 101, 103, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 113, 115, 119, 120, 122, 123, 124 and 127 (95 units)(75% complete)

Feel free to let me know of any more repainted Desiros.


Note: (* = Currently being done)

444040 and 450111 have had vinyl wrap (not been painted)
 
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Dan15812

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444s

002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 011, 012, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020, 021, 023, 024, 025, 027, 029, 030, 031, 032, 037, 038, 042 and 043 (27 units)(60% complete)

450s

001, 002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 010, 011, 012*, 013, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020, 021, 022, 023, 024, 025, 026, 027, 028, 029, 030, 032, 033, 035, 034, 036, 037, 038, 039, 040, 041, 042, 043, 044, 045, 046, 047, 048, 049, 051, 052, 053, 054, 055, 056, 057, 058, 060, 061, 062, 063, 064, 066, 067, 068, 069, 070, 071, 072, 073, 075, 076, 077, 078*, 081, 086, 087, 088, 089, 090, 091, 092, 093, 095, 096, 100, 101, 103, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 113, 114, 115, 119, 120, 122, 123, 124 and 127 (98 units)(77% complete)

Feel free to let me know of any more repainted Desiros.


Note: (* = Currently being done)

444040 and 450111 have had vinyl wrap (not been painted)
 
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450097
450126
450094
450065*
450074*

Can be added to the list. * in progress.

Also a 444 is being named tomorrow at Waterloo. First for a long while.
 

traji00

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Messages
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Not sure if it’s been reported — 444019 has an updated LGBT livery, with the ‘rainbow end’ being in the shape of the SWR logo.
 

DMckduck97

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It’s funny, so behind on getting the whole fleet painted, yet plenty of time to update a current livery with a minor change for a bit of PR. Maybe get the desiro fleet done first
 
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Changing four bits of vinyl over the weekend is a quick job. There are always two units stopped for paint. This was easily done without interrupting the painting.
 

The_Train

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It’s funny, so behind on getting the whole fleet painted, yet plenty of time to update a current livery with a minor change for a bit of PR. Maybe get the desiro fleet done first
Have you complained about the addition of the White Ribbon logo to units that had already received the new livery as well, or is it just this particular unit that has upset you so much?
 

DMckduck97

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Have you complained about the addition of the White Ribbon logo to units that had already received the new livery as well, or is it just this particular unit that has upset you so much?
I couldn’t care less what it is so stop looking for something that’s not there, it’s not like it was already painted with a similar style anyway. Just seems a waste of space for an old unpainted unit.
 

Bigfoot

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I couldn’t care less what it is so stop looking for something that’s not there, it’s not like it was already painted with a similar style anyway. Just seems a waste of space for an old unpainted unit.
The unit has already had a full repaint into SWR colours. It's not an unpainted unit.
 

The_Train

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I couldn’t care less what it is so stop looking for something that’s not there, it’s not like it was already painted with a similar style anyway. Just seems a waste of space for an old unpainted unit.
But it's this particular unit that has caused you to comment, not the numerous white ribbon decals that have been added over recent months?

I'm sure it's just a coincidence so I will leave it at that :lol:
 

Dan15812

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Messages
422
Location
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444s

001*, 002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 011, 012, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020, 021, 023, 024, 025, 027, 029, 030, 031, 032, 036, 037, 038, 042 and 043 (28 units)(62% complete)

450s

001, 002, 003, 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 010, 011, 012, 013, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020, 021, 022, 023, 024, 025, 026, 027, 028, 029, 030, 032, 033, 035, 034, 036, 037, 038, 039, 040, 041, 042, 043, 044, 045, 046, 047, 048, 049, 051, 052, 053, 054, 055, 056, 057, 058, 060, 061, 062, 063, 064, 065, 066, 067, 068, 069, 070, 071, 072, 073, 074, 075, 076, 077, 078, 079*, 080, 081, 086, 087, 088, 089, 090, 091, 092, 093, 094, 095, 096, 097, 098, 100, 101, 103, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 113, 114, 115, 119, 120, 122, 123, 124, 126 and 127 (107 units)(84% complete)

Feel free to let me know of any more repainted Desiros.


Note: (* = Currently being done)

444040 and 450111 have had vinyl wrap (not been painted)
 
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