SWR Repaints and Refurbishments

Discussion in 'Traction & Rolling Stock' started by superalbs, 16 Aug 2017.

  1. superalbs

    superalbs Established Member

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    Location:
    Exeter
    Fleet List:
    (OUTDATED)

    Class 158:
    158880 - SWT C6 Sunray Design (SWR Branded)
    158881 - SWT C6 Sunray Design (SWR Branded)
    158882 - SWT C6 Sunray Design (SWR Branded)
    158883 - SWT C6 Sunray Design (SWR Branded)
    158884 - SWT C6 Sunray Design (SWR Branded)
    158885 - SWT C6 Sunray Design (SWR Branded)
    158886 - SWT C6 Sunray Design (SWR Branded)
    158887 - SWR New Livery
    158888 - SWR New Livery
    158889 - Gone missing with EMT. :(
    158890 - SWR New Livery

    Class 159:
    159001 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    159002 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    159003 - SWR New Livery
    159004 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    159005 - SWR New Livery No Grey Stripes + Interior
    159006 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    159007 - SWR New Livery
    159008 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    159009 - SWR New Livery No Stripes At All + Interior
    159010 - SWR New Livery No Stripes At All + Door Surrounds + Interior
    159011 - SWR New Livery
    159012 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    159013 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    159014 - SWR New Livery + Interior
    159015 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    159016 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    159017 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    159018 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    159019 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    159020 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    159021 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    159022 - SWT White (SWR Branded)

    159101 - SWT C6 Sunray Design (SWR Branded)
    159102 - SWT C6 Sawtooth Design (SWR Branded)
    159103 - SWT C6 Sunray Design (SWR Branded)
    159104 - SWT C6 Sawtooth Design (SWR Branded)
    159105 - SWT C6 Sunray Design (SWR Branded)
    159106 - SWT C6 Sunray Design (SWR Branded)
    159107 - SWT C6 Sunray Design (SWR Branded)
    159108 - SWT C6 Sunray Design (SWR Branded)

    Class 442:
    442401 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442402 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442403 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442404 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442405 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442406 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442407 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442408 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442409 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442410 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442411 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442412 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442413 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442414 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442415 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442416 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442417 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442418 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442419 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442420 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442421 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442422 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442423 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)
    442424 - Gatwick Express (Planned Operator Unknown - Undergoing Overhaul)

    Class 444:
    444001 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444002 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444003 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444004 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444005 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444006 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444007 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444008 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444009 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444010 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444011 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444012 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444013 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444014 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444015 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444016 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444017 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444018 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444019 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444020 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444021 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444022 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444023 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444024 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444025 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444026 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444027 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444028 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444029 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444030 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444031 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444032 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444033 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444034 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444035 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444036 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444037 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444038 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444039 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444040 - SWR New Livery (Interior Being Done Apparently)
    444041 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444042 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444043 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444044 - SWT White (SWR Branded)
    444045 - SWT White (SWR Branded)

    Class 450:
    450001 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450002 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450003 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450004 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450005 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450006 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450007 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450008 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450009 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450010 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450011 - SWR Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450012 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450013 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450014 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450015 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450016 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450017 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450018 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450019 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450020 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450021 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450022 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450023 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450024 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450025 - SWT Blue + Interior
    450026 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450027 - SWT Blue
    450028 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450029 - SWT Blue
    450030 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450031 - SWT Blue + Interior
    450032 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450033 - SWT Blue + Interior
    450034 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450035 - SWT Blue + Interior
    450036 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450037 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450038 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450039 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450040 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450041 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450042 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450543 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450544 - SWT Blue
    450545 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450546 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450547 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450548 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450549 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450550 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450551 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450552 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450553 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450554 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450555 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450556 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450557 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450558 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450559 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450560 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450561 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450562 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450563 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450564 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450565 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450566 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450567 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450568 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450569 - SWT Blue
    450570 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450071 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450072 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450073 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450074 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450075 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450076 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450077 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450078 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450079 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450080 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450081 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450082 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450083 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450084 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450085 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450086 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450087 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450088 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450089 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450090 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450091 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450092 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450093 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450094 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450095 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450096 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450097 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450098 - SWT Blue
    450099 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450100 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450101 - SWT Blue
    450102 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450103 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450104 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450105 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450106 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450107 - SWT Blue
    450108 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450109 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450110 - SWT Blue + Interior
    450111 - SWR New Livery
    450112 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450113 - SWT Blue
    450114 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450115 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450116 - SWT Blue
    450117 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450118 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450119 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450120 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450121 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450122 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450123 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450124 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded) + Interior
    450125 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450126 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    450127 - SWT Blue


    Class 455:
    455701 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455702 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455703 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455704 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455705 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455706 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455707 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455708 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455709 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455710 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455711 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455712 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455713 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455714 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455715 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455716 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455717 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455718 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455719 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455720 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455721 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455722 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455723 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455724 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455725 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455726 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455727 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455728 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455729 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455730 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455731 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455732 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455733 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455734 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455735 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455736 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455737 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455738 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455739 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455740 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455741 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455742 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455750 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)

    455847 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455848 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455849 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455850 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455851 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455852 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455853 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455854 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455855 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455856 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455857 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455858 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455859 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455860 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455861 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455862 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455863 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455864 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455865 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455866 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455867 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455868 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455869 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455870 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455871 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455872 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455873 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455874 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)

    455901 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455902 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455903 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455904 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455905 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455906 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455907 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455908 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455909 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455910 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455911 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455912 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455913 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455914 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455915 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455916 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455917 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455918 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455919 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    455920 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)


    Class 456:
    456001 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456002 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456003 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456004 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456005 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456006 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456007 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456008 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456009 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456010 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456011 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456012 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456013 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456014 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456015 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456016 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456017 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456018 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456019 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456020 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456021 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456022 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456023 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    456024 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)


    Class 458:
    458501 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458502 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458503 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458504 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458505 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458506 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458507 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458508 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458509 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458510 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458511 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458512 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458513 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458514 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458515 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458516 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458517 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458518 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458519 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458520 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458521 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458522 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458523 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458524 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458525 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458526 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458527 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458528 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458529 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458530 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458531 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458532 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458533 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458534 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458535 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)
    458536 - SWT Blue (SWR Branded)

    Class 483:
    483001 - Scrap
    483002 - LT Red (Stored at Ryde St Johns Road, in a poor condition.)
    483003 - Scrap
    483004 - LT Red
    483005 - Scrap
    483006 - LT Red (SWR Branded)
    483007 - LT Red
    483008 - LT Red
    483009 - LT Red
    483010 - Scrap

    Class 707:
    707001 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707002 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707003 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707004 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707005 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707006 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707007 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707008 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707009 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707010 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707011 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707012 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707013 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707014 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707015 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707016 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707017 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707018 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707019 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707020 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707021 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707022 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707023 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707024 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707025 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707026 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707027 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707028 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707029 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)
    707030 - SWT Red (SWR Branded)

    Original Post:
    Hello, as the new franchise launch rapidly approaches, I thought we could do with a thread similar to the GWR and TPE ones.

    I noticed a return move for 158886 was taking place today, going via Exeter. I would assume this is a unit in the new livery.

    http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O19815/2017/08/16/advanced

    Hope it runs! :)
     
    Last edited: 26 Nov 2018
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  3. Suraggu

    Suraggu Member

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    Expect this one to be in SWT colours.
     
  4. leomartin125

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    Seems it ran! And was in the current SWT livery. I would have thought they would draft some designs first before painting one.

    https://flic.kr/p/Wv9h3J
     
  5. AverageTD

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    When the news for the new franchise first came out (no pun intended) there was the executive of First saying that there had been a lot of praise for their new livery but I have no idea of who the praise was coming from or who now what it would be
     
  6. SpacePhoenix

    SpacePhoenix Established Member

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    Would the SWTs logos on it be vinyls?
     
  7. superalbs

    superalbs Established Member

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    I think the entire livery is vinyl, and boy does it show! :/
     
  8. SpacePhoenix

    SpacePhoenix Established Member

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    If the entire livery on that unit is vinyl, is it possible that underneath the vinyl is the new Southwestern Railway livery but painted, not vinyl?
     
  9. CosherB

    CosherB On Moderation

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    You must be joking! :lol:
     
  10. XCTurbostar

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    I'm pretty sure that the MD of South Western Railway - Andy Mellors has said that there will be no rebrand until after the Waterloo works. I wouldnt even expect the SWT branding to be removed until later.

    Thanks,
    Ross
     
  11. edwin_m

    edwin_m Veteran Member

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    Aren't they obliged to remove the predecessor's logo from absolutely everything at handover?
     
  12. swt_passenger

    swt_passenger Veteran Member

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    No one has reported any rolling stock debranding yet, with two days to go. There doesn't seem time to do over 1400 vehicles does there?
     
  13. swt_passenger

    swt_passenger Veteran Member

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    They announced the new franchise launch would be Sept 4th, but I'd still expect any new brand to be included in publicity from Sunday. I.e. the brand as applied to website, posters, leaflets, timetables, will have to be known, unless they reprint everything again later?
     
  14. Bletchleyite

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    As SWT is a generic name maybe they are not required to.

    Re vinyl liveries, I quite like the slightly matt effect they usually have. Probably just plain white underneath I'd imagine.
     
  15. swt_passenger

    swt_passenger Veteran Member

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    A fair point. It may actually be that IF the word Stagecoach had occurred on the exterior bodywork that would have had to go.

    First's 'naming' with their older TOCs had been the opposite of Stagecoach policy, with the word appearing everywhere. Virgin like bigging themselves up too, don't the 390s even have it engraved in interior glass? How will they ever sort that out?
     
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    I suppose that the Trains bit could be obscured with ern added to the Sout West bit as a temporary look for South Western or simply they could run round as what FCC did with their Southern livered 319's - a huge sticky lable stuck on the side of the units as a short term measure.

    Either way the familiar red, orange, yellow, white and blue of SWT will be missed once the units are relivered in whatever will be the new livery.
     
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    Was it a reference to the fairly recent GWR livery I wonder?
     
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    Pretty sure it'll only be the 'swoop' that is vinyl. The bodysides look to be painted.
     
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    Argh! Duplicated.
     
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    Agreed. I sometimes wonder about the swoosh too to be honest although the painted colours on the early 707 photos are a good indication that you're right.
     
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    As an example, the "f in circle" (read that how you want!) on the back of every seat in the HST fleet will have to be removed and replaced before sets are handed back off lease. It was always way over the top in terms of branding and First will now pay for it - literally.
     
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    People often accuse Virgin of overbranding, but if you actually look at it they actually don't.
     
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    Is that definitely the case? Those seats were of course installed like that from refurbishment, rather than having been subsequently branded, so is it possible that there was some form of approval when the refurb spec was agreed? The 180s have First stamped into the door sills, presumably it wasn't removed for Northern and then put back again?
     
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    Also like BR that's on the majority of drop down windows on HSTs!
     
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    Do you think ScotRail want First branding on their HST stock?

    There is usually a clause in the lease that they should be de-branded on handback. I can't see the ROSCOs wanting to pay to remove First branding.
     
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    A mock up of the livery has popped up on Facebook, staff booking on today appear to be getting they're welcome packs, hopefully there'll be one for me when I start later!

    450112 & 450118 lost their wrap around livery a couple of weeks ago.
     
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    159014 debranded - it no longer has South West Trains on the sides. Operating between Basingstoke and Salisbury this afternoon.

    I now need to correct that. It's the company name on the lower (white) panels that's been removed. The name still appears in the shwooshes on the upper side panels at the driving end of the DMs. At least. it was still there at 16.45. I hadn't realised that till I looked at a photo.
     
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    That's because the sky news presenter asked him about GWR and their 2015 rebrand to green and silver.
     
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    It really doesn't matter what Scotrail 'want', there's either an obligation to remove it or there isn't. Given that any future reuse elsewhere was probably thought somewhat unlikely at the time the heavy refurb was carried out, I'd be not at all surprised if such a clause wasn't considered particularly relevant in this case.
     
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    There's an image of a 455 carriages with a new sticker on the side, is this genuine or a knock up? If it's real do we know the unit number?
     
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    Well it has come from the official source, so one would assume it's real.

    https://twitter.com/SW_Help/status/899179203282714624

    Not sure which unit it'd be.
     

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