Thamesdown Transport taken over by Go Ahead

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  1. BPWUser1

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    Being reported by BBC Points West, and on the BBC local live for WOE.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-38852750

     
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  2. overthewater

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    Always thought Stagecoach might have gotten that one.
     
  3. bignosemac

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    Another municipal bites the dust.
     
  4. overthewater

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    I wonder who else bidded for the company.


    http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/..._Thamesdown_sale_revealed/?commentSort=oldest


     
  5. ChathillMan

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    I think Its in safe hands with Go Ahead to be fair.

    Stagecoach would have done ok but I imagine completion authorities would have been in there like a shot. Least it isn't ARRIVA or First
     
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    Exactly. For the benefit of those not in the know, Thamesdown and Stagecoach are the two biggest operators in Swindon by a very long way. The two operators do overlap a bit but mainly they serve different parts of the town.
     
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    I think some big changes will be a foot later this year then.
     
  8. baza585

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    Impossible because the CMA would almost certainly not allow it.

    What will be interesting is Stagecoach's reaction to Go Ahead taking over. There was no point in them spending money attacking Thamesdown because they couldn't take it over; but they may decide now to try to selectively compete on Thamesdown's most profitable routes (if they have any................).
     
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    At the high point of 1966 there were 99 municipals in the UK now it's down to 10. I think places lost a little bit of their identity and character once their municipal bus services disappeared.
     
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    In Plymouth (the other municipal bought by Go-Ahead) the situation when Stagecoach took on First's interests in the city was that both sides immediately agreed a truce in competing services!
     
  11. overthewater

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    Whats the deal with Rosso? its seems its not in the best of health.
     
  12. Robertj21a

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    You could add a few more to that.
     
  13. overthewater

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    There is talk Rosso is also not in a healthy point, but why have there expanded then.

    NOTE:There is no talk of sell off or anything like that, but council bus companies are having a tough time since their have no one to help bail them out.
     
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    Where have Rosso expanded?

    Council companies tend to have limited operational patches and are also perhaps constrained by the relationship with their main shareholder. The current pressures on the industry have claimed many victims with firms going out of business - council firms aren't immune from those.
     
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    Moving south into former First areas, where First has pulled out.

    I'm surprised the none of the English council have joined together to create single company to deal with many of the back office functions to help stream line the operations or buy buses in bulk etc.
     
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    Rosso haven't appreciably expanded South; they've been Bury and Rochdale for many years.
     
  17. F262YTJ

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    Blackpool Transport seems to have turned a corner with the massive investment in 30 E400s this year plus the orders over the last 2 years.

    I'd say Halton and Warrington are 2 to watch at present.
     
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    I also wonder about the long-term future of Ipswich Buses. The long-standing Managing Director retired in May after 25 years in the role, only for his replacement to resign in December.

    Hopefully this isn't a sign of serious underlying problems, but superficially it doesn't look good.
     
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    Who would want want either one of them? Arriva would not be allowed either. Again would a merger but off the cards just to help reduced back office functions?


    I doubt there is any underlying problems, maybe he didn't like it or he had different view from the council.
     
  20. Robertj21a

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    As far as I can see, most of the 10 remaining 'municipals' look rather vulnerable . Probably only Lothian, Nottingham and Reading appear fairly 'safe' for the longer term. I'd put Warrington, Rosso and Ipswich fairly high up the list.
     

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