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Class377/5
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Current weekday diagrams...
TB501 SX
5Y91 02+14 Jowett Sidings to Bedford
2W91 02.40 Bedford to Brighton
1B00 05.47 Brighton to London Bridge
1B05 07.12 London Bridge to Brighton
1B10 08.27 Brighton to London Bridge
1B15 09.42 London Bridge to Brighton
1B22 11.02 Brighton to London Bridge
1B25 12.12 London Bridge to Brighton
5B25 13+29 Brighton to Down Yard
5B38 14+42 Down Yard to Brighton
1B38 15.02 Brighton to London Bridge
1B41 16.12 London Bridge to Brighton
1B48 17.32 Brighton to London Bridge
1B51 18.42 London Bridge to Brighton
5W51 20+06 Brighton to Three Bridges Depot
TB502
5W93 05+10 Three Bridges Depot to Three Bridges
2W94 05.20 Three Bridges to Bedford
1W13 07.34 Bedford to Brighton
1W24 10.35 Brighton to Bedford
2W41 13.24 Bedford to Three Bridges
5W92 15+41 Three Bridges to Three Bridges Depot
5W92 15+56 Three Bridges Depot to Three Bridges
1W92 15.59 Three Bridges to Bedford
2W61 18.24 Bedford to Three Bridges
2W66 20.43 Three Bridges to Bedford
5Y68 23+00 Bedford to Jowett Sidings
TB503
5Y11 06+32 Jowett Sidings to Bedford
1W11 06.58 Bedford to Three Bridges
2W22 09.11 Three Bridges to Bedford
1W29 11.40 Bedford to Brighton
1W40 14.35 Brighton to Bedford
2W57 17.20 Bedford to Three Bridges
2W62 19.43 Three Bridges to Bedford
5Y62 22+00 Bedford to Jowett Sidings
TB504
5W02 05+07 Brighton Down Yard to Brighton
1W02 05.30 Brighton to Bedford
2W21 08.24 Bedford to Three Bridges
5W30 10+41 Three Bridges to Three Bridges Depot
5W30 10+56 Three Bridges Depot to Three Bridges
2W30 10.59 Three Bridges to Bedford
1W37 13.40 Bedford to Brighton
1W96 16.35 Brighton to Bedford
5Y96 19+03 Bedford to Jowett Sidings
TB505
5Y01 03+47 Jowett Siding to Bedford
1W01 04.16 Bedford to Brighton
1W82 07.22 Brighton to Bedford
1W23 10.10 Bedford to Brighton
1W34 13.05 Brighton to Bedford
1W45 15.50 Bedford to Brighton
1W56 18.35 Brighton to Bedford
5Y69 21+14 Bedford to Jowett Sidings
5Y69 21+27 Jowett Sidings to Bedford
1W69 21.40 Bedford to Brighton
5W69 00+25 Brighton to Down Yard
TB506
5W06 05+10 Three Bridges Depot to Brighton
1W06 06.06 Brighton to Bedford
2W23 08.54 Bedford to Three Bridges
2W32 11.29 Three Bridges to Bedford
1W39 14.10 Bedford to Brighton
1W80 17.01 Brighton to Bedford
5Y80 19+33 Bedford to Jowett
TB507
5Y93 07+04 Jowett to Bedford
1W93 07.30 Bedford to Brighton
1W22 10.05 Brighton to Bedford
2W39 12.54 Bedford to Three Bridges
2W48 15.29 Three Bridges to Bedford
2W59 18.00 Bedford to Gatwick
2W64 20.18 Gatwick to Bedford
2W81 23.10 Bedford to Three Bridges
5W81 01+36 Three Bridges to Three Bridges Depot
What issue are you having with the Wi-Fi at St Pancras? It's fine for me.
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Anyone got a Saturday Diagram?
Class377/5
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I can't get the login screen to come up, so can only (sometimes) get the free service - and often that doesn't actually allow any data, so my phones (I've tried multiple devices) warn there's no data and seek another SSID or network.
Now, I have to say that the only times I try are always down on the lower level platform and there could be a problem with a single access point. What I should remember to do next time is attempt to login upstairs first, as that could be what the problem is.
Ultimately, for some months I've been unable to get Internet access down there. It's mildly annoying but not the end of the world.
Hopefully the plans for Network Rail to offer 4G on its network to the public (I assume entirely separate to GSM-R, and merely allowing access to sites) could mean that St Pancras eventually gets full mobile coverage.
I mean, given you can enjoy mobile data and calls on the channel tunnel, it doesn't sound like it should be that hard.
At the very least, operators should be invited to install mini/macro/nano/femto cells (or whatever) down there. They'd pay for the opportunity.
I've never had any of these issues, it works every time I'm on the platforms on TL in STP, so I think you might be a bit unluck!
Have to admit, not impressed with the 700 I was on yesterday. The PIS was showing the wrong stopping pattern, not a word was said, and folks kept coming up to me complaining. All I could say was, I'm just a passenger like you, I don't know the stopping pattern, All i know is it's stopping at Burgess Hill and Brighton, nothing more. I work for Southern, this is a TL train, If the driver says nothing, then nothing I can do. Welcome to the future. I did try and look for a way to contact the driver without using the pass com, but after searching 3 coaches, could not find a panel*. When we got to Brighton, the concourse was full of miffed of punters as the PIS said Hassocks, and we did not stop.
Mind on a lighter note, one woman came up to me almost shouting that the train was going the wrong way, the next stop was East Croydon (as we were heading south). I had to explain to her that the destination was Brighton, as it said on the PIS, and that East Croydon was on a list of stations that it was (or had, or should be, or could be) stopping at.
*After looking through the whole train I did find a conductors panel 4 coaches away, but TBH, I don't even know if any of my keys would have activated the PA/CC system, or what it would do to the systems if I had.
Mind on a lighter note, one woman came up to me almost shouting that the train was going the wrong way, the next stop was East Croydon (as we were heading south). I had to explain to her that the destination was Brighton, as it said on the PIS, and that East Croydon was on a list of stations that it was (or had, or should be, or could be) stopping at.
*After looking through the whole train I did find a conductors panel 4 coaches away, but TBH, I don't even know if any of my keys would have activated the PA/CC system, or what it would do to the systems if I had.
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As I said, I'll try logging in elsewhere in the station. Once a device is set up, it should authenticate automatically and I might be able to get it working.
I'd also like to see if Wi-Fi Calling works on EE or Vodafone.
I still think 3G/4G in the station is a must - and that obviously means the train will remain connected throughout the core too.
When I tried while having a 10 minute wait for the next train on the Thameslink platforms at St Pancras a couple of weeks ago (the screens on the platforms were blank that morning so was unsuccessfully trying to check RTT) I was unable to get any mobile or wifi signal - my phone just said "no service"
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700016 was this mornings 700 delivery and the 28th unit to arrive on 6X66 03+23 Dollands Moor to Three Bridges Depot
The dates for all deliveries so far are...
Unit 1 - 700106 - 31/07/15
Unit 2 - 700107 - 30/09/15
Unit 3 - 700108 - 28/10/15
Unit 4 - 700110 - 16/12/15
Unit 5 - 700109 - 06/01/16
Unit 6 - 700111 - 20/01/16
Unit 7 - 700102 - 02/03/16
Unit 8 - 700002 - 09/03/16
Unit 9 - 700112 - 16/03/16
Unit 10 - 700103 - 23/03/16
Unit 11 - 700113 - 30/03/16
Unit 12 - 700114 - 20/04/16
Unit 13 - 700003 - 27/04/16
Unit 14 - 700004 - 04/05/16
Unit 15 - 700005 - 18/05/16
Unit 16 - 700104 - 01/06/16
Unit 17 - 700006 - 08/06/16
Unit 18 - 700007 - 29/06/16
Unit 19 - 700105 - 06/07/16
Unit 20 - 700010 - 13/07/16
Unit 21 - 700115 - 20/07/16
Unit 22 - 700008 - 27/07/16
Unit 23 - 700014 - 10/08/16
Unit 24 - 700101 - 17/08/16
Unit 25 - 700018 - 24/08/16
Unit 26 - 700015 - 29/08/16
Unit 27 - 700019 - 07/09/16
Unit 28 - 700016 - 14/09/16
Btw I don't think the standard weekend diagrams I gave are coming in yet folks.
The dates for all deliveries so far are...
Unit 1 - 700106 - 31/07/15
Unit 2 - 700107 - 30/09/15
Unit 3 - 700108 - 28/10/15
Unit 4 - 700110 - 16/12/15
Unit 5 - 700109 - 06/01/16
Unit 6 - 700111 - 20/01/16
Unit 7 - 700102 - 02/03/16
Unit 8 - 700002 - 09/03/16
Unit 9 - 700112 - 16/03/16
Unit 10 - 700103 - 23/03/16
Unit 11 - 700113 - 30/03/16
Unit 12 - 700114 - 20/04/16
Unit 13 - 700003 - 27/04/16
Unit 14 - 700004 - 04/05/16
Unit 15 - 700005 - 18/05/16
Unit 16 - 700104 - 01/06/16
Unit 17 - 700006 - 08/06/16
Unit 18 - 700007 - 29/06/16
Unit 19 - 700105 - 06/07/16
Unit 20 - 700010 - 13/07/16
Unit 21 - 700115 - 20/07/16
Unit 22 - 700008 - 27/07/16
Unit 23 - 700014 - 10/08/16
Unit 24 - 700101 - 17/08/16
Unit 25 - 700018 - 24/08/16
Unit 26 - 700015 - 29/08/16
Unit 27 - 700019 - 07/09/16
Unit 28 - 700016 - 14/09/16
Btw I don't think the standard weekend diagrams I gave are coming in yet folks.
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So that is 3 for 3 on 1W13 this week and whilst not completely the fault of the actual trains the support behind them appears to be lacking (Driver availablity, fault rectification etc).
I am curious how seriously GTR management are taking this given it is now 8 weeks since introduction and we appear to be still having the same issues.
I am curious how seriously GTR management are taking this given it is now 8 weeks since introduction and we appear to be still having the same issues.
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Are GTR anywhere near to having all drivers and fitters fully trained up on the 700s?
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It's a three year process to getting the driver trained up. Don't forget it includes Thameslink, South Eastern, Great Northern and Southern drivers as well as commissioning runs etc. It's a huge programme.
As for fitters, well Siemens supplies those, not GTR.
Appreciate the complexities involved in this project, but has it been acknowledged internally that the plans are not delivering the expected results?
From my point of view tables plugs and wifi are nice to have but a relible service is a must have.
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Yep put 700016 into the depot this morning, a bit tight with the timings what with up attachment, but it's such a common move now that it's becoming a non event.
Any ideas if the same diagram will run this Sunday as last Sunday? Given the same engineering works.
Islineclear3_1
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Thank you, much appreciated. Any idea yet when the Sutton/Wimbledon loop will start to go over to 700 operation?
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Islineclear3_1
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Great thanks. That means a few more 319s might go off lease then
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Not necessarily, because as insiders have regularly posted here, once the initial batches of 319s were transferred out it has always been the intention to release the 387s and 377s as soon as possible.
Islineclear3_1
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Just seen on another thread that a few more 319's are at Wolverton destined for Northern perhaps. Whether this is related or not I don't know as I know the loan 387/2's are now back on Southern
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Yes, but in the context of your question that transfer had already happened, as far as their release from GTR is concerned.
Currently posting from Platform B....
I got it working today, on the low level platforms. The log in process has changed, so I guess they've looked at it. For one, you can now log in with Twitter - except with my two step authentication, I came unstuck because I had to receive a text code (no signal!).
But the the minutes free worked fine, so that's good. I'd hope not to be down there longer than ten minutes, although GTR does try its hardest...!
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But the the minutes free worked fine, so that's good. I'd hope not to be down there longer than ten minutes, although GTR does try its hardest...!
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One day we will have mobile reception down there... One day...
Also OT, from your signature can I assume you're using one of the new midrange Huawei Nova phones?
Yes, and I keep forgetting that Tapatalk defaults to signature on when you install it on a new device - sorry!
I have the Nova Plus and it's okay. Nothing particularly special, but I'm reviewing it and probably won't be using it for that long. I personally prefer the Honor 8 (a variant of the Huawei P9).
It's not the first time I've needed an SMS to give me authentication to log in via Twitter or Facebook to give permission to use Wi-Fi, or even to get a password (O2, Virgin Media Wi-Fi) and it's a bit stupid if you're underground and can't get a phone signal!
The last time I tried Wi-Fi at St Pancras it had a normal login/password that I had to register with independently. Maybe that didn't work well for the amount of tourists not wishing to sign up for just an hour or two access at the start and end of their trip.
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It's rather disappointing that the Eurotunnel has coverage, even at its deepest depth of roughly 76m down, yet St Pancras International LL doesn't.
I'd imagine it'd not even take much cellular equipment to extend coverage to the platforms, though a leaky cable system through the core would be better.
Huawei were keen to provide it for LU, perhaps they'd be willing to do a trial installation on TL instead
.Covering the platforms should be dead easy. Shopping centres do it (not always, mind) and Vodafone and other networks offer high speed 4G access in their stores. All that's needed is a decent backhaul and in central London that's not going to be hard to obtain.
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