Thameslink/ Class 700 Progress

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  1. fgwrich

    fgwrich Established Member

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    From this recent video by Siemens, it looks like the first Desiro City Shell isn't too far off completion.

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  3. Loki

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    Does not work for me. Can you post the link, please?
     
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    It also looks like it is going to be fitted with the ETCS and ATO in-cab equipment from new, so none of these horrible modification jobs (read - most old stock and the TPWS box)
     
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    The first train is almost finished and off for testing on the continent shortly. Siemens are somewhere around bodyshell 20 now.

    And they will need to get the Tunbridge Wells destination display deleted ;)
     
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    Well I did know Siemens worked pretty quickly but that's impressive in the space of 3 days and an hour! :lol: Pleased to hear that though, I had a feeling that the Siemens Video was probably a little out of date, but it does show some visible progress including those neat bogies.
     
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    Siemens do work pretty fast I have to say.
     
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    Seems that Siemens, unlike Hitachi are building their own bogies then ;)
     
  10. Class377/5

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    Few other bits in this official thread.

    The first unit will be moved for test "by the end of the year" according to Siemens Rail System MD Steve Scrimshaw.

    The first 12 car is scheduled to be delivered by Christmas 2015 and in service in February 2016, with the first 8 car arriving in early 2014. The final unit is planned to arrive by the end of May 2018 to give 6 months before the full fleet introduction is required.

    Have you seen the 'garage' video that's taken from?

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    Siemens Desiro Cities by Sparkyscrum, on Flickr

    I can't remember where but one of Siemens factories is building them and the class 700 order will take 25% of the plants capacity.
     
  11. westcoaster

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    Vienna Austria was mentioned
     
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    Krefeld (near Düsseldorf).
    The test track at Wegberg-Wildenrath is about 25 miles south west of Krefeld, only a couple of miles from the Dutch border.
     
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    Same place that's building the 350/3s and /4s.
     
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    I believe Krefeld is assembling the trains but Vienna is building the bogies.
     
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    Vienna is Siemens main bogie building plant so that's where they should be coming from. Indeed that's where the press releases have been coming from as well.
     
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    Expect an announcement and a little bit more in the new year, I won't spoil it.
     
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    Nice looking trains! What is ATO?
     
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    Automatic Train Operation, ie the train drives itself much like the 2009 stock on the Victoria Line. Apparently this is needed to get the 24tph service pattern through the tunnel in the city.
     
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    Presumably the driver will still be in the cab through the London Section, then take over at, say, West Hampstead, or East Croydon, or Finsbury Park?
     
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    The ATO section is significantly smaller than that, it only includes the four core stations and London Bridge. The boundaries are east of London Bridge, north of Elephant, and immediately north of St Pancras on both branches, and there's no ATO on the ECML.

    ...and yes, the driver will definitely stay on board - as he'll still have control of the doors, and will start the train after each call.
     
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    I'm guessing something to do with first train complete?
     
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    Krefeld - "Heimat" (Home) of the 350's and much else. A good number of bodyshells done and job going well.
     
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    Train launch in news year plus I'm sure thoses of us internal to Thameslink have seen the good news as well.

    As Westcoaster says more to come out next year but it's good news that many on here may join in on.
     
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    Bloody hell they got her done quickly!
     
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    Looks good - unlike those horrible juniper zombies
     
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    I guess these will be similar internally to Scotrails 380s?
     
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    I'm not sure but personally, I'd say no as the 380s have tables and are more kitted out to be regional trans whereas I'd imagine the 700s would have more airline style seats. There was a PDF document released by siemens and it showed the interior to be 2+2 seats with stand back areas around the doors and central grab rails in the door area. I'm not sure how much this has changed though :)
     
  29. swt_passenger

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    Also, to support the above info, the TSGN ITT points out that the Class 700 capacity will be based on the '4 passengers per square metre' standing allowance (as used in SWT's 455 conversions), which therefore implies 2+2 with loads of room for standees and perch seats around the doors.
     
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    Is this good news that is unexpected?
     
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    They actually started construction on the pre-series before the contract was completely signed off.
     

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