TPE Mark 5A coaching stock progress (includes images)

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  1. dilbertphil

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  2. sjpowermac

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    Many thanks for that, appreciated.

    I notice the SO 5T85 Longsight-York and subsequent York-Scarborough shuttles are cancelled for 22nd June and 29th June. The diagram for 06th July isn’t cancelled (as yet!).

    If the six-week clock starts ticking today, that puts us into August before anything much happens.

    Fingers crossed that some of the SO York-Scarborough turns might still produce but it certainly starts to look like September/October before we see Nova 3 in regular service...
     
  3. InOban

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    The rules of the railway industry are (nearly) all justified by the need for the safety of the train and its passengers/freight. How is this six-week rule justified?
     
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    Given the very varied hours that drivers work, I suspect the rule is to enable them to plan their lives outside of work. I think it’s worth remembering that TPE operate 24 hours a day.

    For people in an office and working say 09:00 to 17:00 everyday, it usually wouldn’t be unreasonable to expect them to undergo some training within those hours at fairly short notice.

    A driver booked on at say 20:00 and with a duty ending at say 04:00, might well have made some personal arrangements several weeks in advance to fit with that schedule. Suddenly switching to a training run, say 08:00 to 16:00 might be troublesome.

    I don’t actually know the reason behind the rule, hence my question about if a driver is happy to switch then are they allowed to, I wasn’t in any way questioning the reasonableness of six weeks notice.
     
  5. InOban

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    I assume many of these drivers would have started training before the courses were suspended. Will they have to start from scratch?
     
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    There were only a handful of instructors affected. No courses have been run for drivers yet.

    I think patience is the key here, it will happen, but perhaps not as quickly as everyone would like, especially TPE's hard pressed passengers.
     
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    According to tops 68027 is now allocated to set TP04
     
  9. EE Andy b1

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    TPE have 68019-032 & DRS 033/034 for there use, are the Class 68 getting a good circulation of working with Mk5a sets whilst testing?
     
  10. SP Man

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    It's on set 4 but next one out is set 11 on night brake testing then FFR next week.
     
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    what about set 5?
     
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    Set 5+2 are in store and going into secure store so will probably be the last one to get commissioned.
     
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    These are the 2 Mk5a sets coupled rear to rear in storage at Basford Hall, Crewe that @ Erniescooper has said are going to Longtown, Carlisle for secure storage on Friday.
     
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    Superior traction taking them there....47830.
     
  15. EE Andy b1

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    Very nice, the Freightliner route learner!
     
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    Do we know which is which please? I'm wondering if this is 12802 or 12805...?
     

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    Is there a path in the system yet for this move up to Carlisle?
     
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    I quite understand, but surely that shouldn't stop a request for volunteers for an earlier course. After all, by the time the six weeks are up, we're into school holidays and childcare will be even more awkward.
     
  20. EE Andy b1

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    Someone should know for sure on Friday.
     
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    Or this latest set has failed it's FFR and had to start again from scratch.
     
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    Are you stating that as a fact or just a possibility? Genuine question:)
     
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    Due to issues at MOD Longtown tomorrow move cancelled.
     
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    Yorkshire Locos
    68019 Siemens Depot
    68022 Siemens Depot
    68024 Scarborough
    68032 York (Exam Road)

    There have been driver training/refresher trips between York and Scarborough each day, including last weekend. Two locomotives have worked on some of the days. The only change in locos has been 68028 going back to Longsight.

    Details below, headcodes in post #3619

    Saturday 15.06.2019
    68032 0B60/61/62/63/64/65/66/67

    Sunday 16.06.2019
    68032 0B62/63/64/65/66/67/68/69

    Monday 17.06.2019
    68028 0M68 09:15 York-Longsight
    68024 0B81/82/83/84/85/86/87/88
    68032 0B60/61/62/63/64/65/66/67

    Tuesday 18.06.2019
    68032 0B60/61/62/66/67

    Wednesday 19.06.2019
    68032 0B60/61/62/63/64/65/66/67

    Thursday 20.06.2019
    68024 0B81/82/83/84/85/86/87/88

    Friday 21.06.2019
    68024 0B81/82/83/84
    68032 0B60/61/62/63/64/65/66/67


    Crewe Loco
    Driver refresher trips have continued between Crewe and Wavertree Junction utilising 68029 ‘Courageous’

    Details below, headcodes in post #3620
    Monday 17.06.2019
    0F26/0K27

    Tuesday 18.06.2019
    0F22/0K23

    Wednesday 19.06.2019
    0F22/0K23 0F26/27

    Thursday 20.06.2019
    0F22/0K23 0F26/0K27

    Friday 21.06.2019
    0F22/0K23
     
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    Test Trains/FFR
    Test runs/Fault Free Running continued two days this week. Does anyone know if TP04 has been accepted by TPE? With the extra 1000 miles this week, I make the total for this set just short of 4000 miles since the runs recommenced in early June. Is TP04 now at Crewe LNWR?

    Happy to be corrected on anything here:)

    68031 Felix with TP04
    Monday 17.06.2019
    05:15 MID-Carlisle
    07:55 Carlisle-Bletchley
    15:27 Bletchley-MID

    Tuesday 18.06.2019
    05:15 MID-Carlisle
    07:54 Carlisle-Crewe
    12:16 Crewe-Bletchley
    15:27 Bletchley-MID
    Plus(?)
    19:20 MID-Crewe C.S.


    Wednesday 19.06.2019
    Nothing running

    Thursday 20.06.2019
    Nothing running

    Friday 21.06.2019
    Nothing running
     
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  27. sjpowermac

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    Ooops! Missed these:

    Thursday 20.06.2019
    21:26 MID-Stafford
    23:23 Stafford-Warrington Bank Quay

    Friday 21.06.2019
    02:24 Warrington Bank Quay-Crewe

    I wonder if they were the night braking runs with TP11 referred to earlier?
     
  28. Erniescooper

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    Yep that was Set 11 out last night and should start FFR next week, Set 4 is finished with FFR and should be handed over next week but I’m not expecting it to move from MID straight away. Sets 7, 10 and 12 are either in the country or not far and should put in an appearance in the next couple of weeks.
     
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    Many thanks for that, greatly appreciated. It seems like the ball is now in TPE’s court;)
     
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