Thanks very much. Very useful to know about the 185 diagram too. I know it shouldn't really make a difference, but once the new trains are in service I would prefer to avoid using the 185s between Manchester and Leeds/York and Newcastle where I can. Similarly with travelling to Scotland, I have preferred Virgin over TPE simply due to space. Simply put, a commuter style train on a relatively long distance is not as comfortable, and if I am not alone in my preferences, TPE should probably see a lot of people move move to using them more frequently.