Agreed. So the only explanation I see is that they've decided to send them back into service without a full repaint (but in a presentable condition).Guess that makes sense, just thought if it was a full repaint surely it’d make more sense to do TfW rather than ATW, just to repaint again in a few months
Thanks for the info!175011 back in Chester from Widnes after full refurb. I believe 001 has now gone in to be done next.
Thanks for the infoNon-prm 158827 is currently sitting outside the workshops at Crewe so presumably will be next in for PRM.work
285 and 284 were also corrosion repaired (not just "made presentable") and painted into the same livery earlier this yearAgreed. So the only explanation I see is that they've decided to send them back into service without a full repaint (but in a presentable condition).
Interesting. can @PHILIPE or anyone else confirm whether this unit has come back from PRM mods, of whether it's in fact unmodified...?I was just looking back through this thread and saw about 150251, I was on it on the 12th August and it definitely wasnt PRM modded then so unless they have massively sped up the turnarounds I'd be suprised I'd 251 didnt just have some maintenance rather than prm work.
The pic is of it passing Heald Green on 12/08 with blinds etc still there.
I think they're skipping the TfW livery for the time being as they're pressed for time to get all the PRM mods done by the end of the year. Painting over the bits they've been patching up is quicker.
Guess that makes sense, just thought if it was a full repaint surely it’d make more sense to do TfW rather than ATW, just to repaint again in a few months
I hadn't realised they were given a full repaint in the old livery.285 and 284 were also corrosion repaired (not just "made presentable") and painted into the same livery earlier this year
I hadn't realised they were given a full repaint in the old livery.
Perhaps there's still a speed advantage in not having to apply several coats of white paint to cover the old livery (assuming that they planned to be painting the 150s rather than vinyling them)
I also heard that 150s were supposed to start getting TfW livery last month (July)!There might be something more to it. I gather some in TfW think they've been pushing the new brand too far in advance of promised improvements. The feeling is that although they've always been open about the timeline for their plans, expectations have been raised anyway.
They couldn't use ATW's branding but neutral looking trains could buy them some time.
I'm guessing and joining the dots here but I've heard that from a couple of people in TfW and WG.
Many thanks! Does it have logos / branding...?158834 now repainted in TfwView attachment 67871 white with full PRM mods.
Yes it is fully branded.Many thanks! Does it have logos / branding...?
cheersYes it is fully branded.
Did see another 150 in Crewe for PRM mods. I’m not 100% sure but it may of been 150208
What mods are needed to comply with PRM?
door openable chimes, not opening, also the closing ones made louder, and toilet retention tanks also fitted and while not strictly necessary, water flush toilet replaced with vacuum flush toilet.Door opening chimes, disabled accessible toilet, Passenger Information system, free other little bits and pieces.
door openable chimes, not opening, also the closing ones made louder, and toilet retention tanks also fitted and while not strictly necessary, water flush toilet replaced with vacuum flush toilet.
Plus really little things which make a big difference. Such as replacing the door handles on the middle doors of 150's with proper handles instead of the awful finger breaking recessed things. Call for aid system at the disabled seating area too.
door openable chimes, not opening, also the closing ones made louder, and toilet retention tanks also fitted and while not strictly necessary, water flush toilet replaced with vacuum flush toilet.
Plus really little things which make a big difference. Such as replacing the door handles on the middle doors of 150's with proper handles instead of the awful finger breaking recessed things. Call for aid system at the disabled seating area too.
One Turbostar has officially arrived
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Thanks for bringing the official video of 170207's arrival to our attentionOne Turbostar has officially arrived
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does anyone know...?