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Discussion in 'Fares Advice & Policy' started by lyesbkz, 18 Nov 2011.

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  1. 18 Nov 2011 #1
    lyesbkz

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    I have noted that there is a £13.55 fare (with 16-25 Railcard) which is a 'One Day Off Peak Travelcard' from Reading Stations to London Zones 1-6.

    My understanding is that it is valid for one (off-peak) return journey from Reading to London, and unlimited (off-peak) travel within Zones 1-6 on the day. Have I understood this correctly?

    Also, if I wanted to do the opposite journey (London - Reading) and include Z1-6 travelcard, is this possible on the above ticket? If not, can anyone recommend what is the best ticket for such a journey?

    Cheers
     
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  3. 18 Nov 2011 #2
    Mike395

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    Yes that's correct - Z1-6 Day Travelcards are only available going towards London in the outward direction :)

    Your best bet if youre spending a day in London then travelling on to Reading afterwards is probably to get an Oyster card or standalone Z1-6 travelcard, then purchase your London-Reading ticket separately :)
     
  4. 18 Nov 2011 #3
    LexyBoy

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    Outboundary Travelcards are valid for one return journey to the edge of Zone 6, and unlimited travel within the Zones.

    To do the reverse, you should buy a Z1-6 Travelcard (with Y-P discount) and a Boundary Zone 6 - Reading Off Peak Day Return. If you're only making a limited amount of travel, it might be cheaper to use Oyster and buy a London-Reading return.
     
  5. 18 Nov 2011 #4
    Mike395

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    I need to wake up, that would indeed be the best bet, rather than my advice of getting a London-Reading ticket! :oops:
     
  6. 18 Nov 2011 #5
    lyesbkz

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    I have never come across Boundary Zone tickets before, would I simply show the guard my 1-6 Travelcard along with a "Boundary Zone 6 - Reading" ticket?

    I don't have access to Avantix Traveller at the moment, and seemingly Boundary tickets can't be bought online - how much does a Boundary Zone 6 - Reading Off Peak Day Rtn cost (with Y-P discount)
     
  7. 18 Nov 2011 #6
    Mike395

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    You would indeed :)

    £6.60 (assuming you're taking the quicker route via Paddington - it's bizarrely more expensive via Waterloo at £7.40!)
     
  8. 18 Nov 2011 #7
    LexyBoy

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    How are these tickets routed?

    I note that this combination is cheaper than a Travelcard from Reading at £11.90 - hadn't realised that before!
     
  9. 18 Nov 2011 #8
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    Undefined. There are differing opinions on here.
     
  10. 18 Nov 2011 #9
    LexyBoy

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    I'm aware of the lack of clarity around how a journey to a boundary zone is defined in general (another issue!); I was referring to the two different fares quoted by Mike395 - at least one of which must have a defined routeing instruction (I don't have Advantix at the mo). My post wasn't perhaps very clear.
     
  11. 18 Nov 2011 #10
    hairyhandedfool

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    'Via Slough' and 'Via Ascot'.
     
  12. 18 Nov 2011 #11
    LexyBoy

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    Thanks. Interesting that there's not an Any Permitted - the routeing flexibility of BZ tickets being half the point of them compared to buying a ticket from the last Z6 station...

    (Although the Via Ascot fare is in effect Any Permitted as it's more expensive than the Via Slough and thus valid on both routes).
     
  13. 18 Nov 2011 #12
    bb21

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    Yes I think I misunderstood what you meant. Apologies.

    Anyhow you were right to observe that the price of the combination going out of London is cheaper Route Slough than coming into London, which is Any Permitted.

    In fact, Route Ascot is also cheaper in that direction.
     
  14. 18 Nov 2011 #13
    island

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    Probably to stop arguments between SWT and FGW as to who gets how much of the fare!
     
  15. 19 Nov 2011 #14
    lyesbkz

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    Thanks for all the help, I have one final query, I wish to travel from London to Oxford tomorrow and return, breaking my journey at Reading (return only).

    Is this allowed on a Boundary Zone 6 - Oxford Off-Peak Day Return (assuming one exists) and how much would such a ticket be (with Y-P)?
     
  16. 19 Nov 2011 #15
    John @ home

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    Boundary Zone 6 - Oxford Off-Peak Day Return with 16-25 Railcard costs £10.50 (or minimum £12 Mon-Fri from 0930 - 0959). It has Validity Code W1, which allows break of either or both legs of the journey.
     
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