Travelcards outside Fare Zones

Discussion in 'Fares Advice & Policy' started by lyesbkz, 18 Nov 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. lyesbkz

    lyesbkz Member

    Messages:
    584
    Joined:
    1 Dec 2010
    Location:
    Sheffield
    I have noted that there is a £13.55 fare (with 16-25 Railcard) which is a 'One Day Off Peak Travelcard' from Reading Stations to London Zones 1-6.

    My understanding is that it is valid for one (off-peak) return journey from Reading to London, and unlimited (off-peak) travel within Zones 1-6 on the day. Have I understood this correctly?

    Also, if I wanted to do the opposite journey (London - Reading) and include Z1-6 travelcard, is this possible on the above ticket? If not, can anyone recommend what is the best ticket for such a journey?

    Cheers
     
  2. Registered users do not see these banners - join or log in today!

    Rail Forums

     
  3. Mike395

    Mike395 Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    2,151
    Joined:
    23 May 2009
    Location:
    Bedford
    Yes that's correct - Z1-6 Day Travelcards are only available going towards London in the outward direction :)

    Your best bet if youre spending a day in London then travelling on to Reading afterwards is probably to get an Oyster card or standalone Z1-6 travelcard, then purchase your London-Reading ticket separately :)
     
  4. LexyBoy

    LexyBoy Established Member Fares Advisor

    Messages:
    4,460
    Joined:
    23 Jan 2009
    Location:
    North of the rivers
    Outboundary Travelcards are valid for one return journey to the edge of Zone 6, and unlimited travel within the Zones.

    To do the reverse, you should buy a Z1-6 Travelcard (with Y-P discount) and a Boundary Zone 6 - Reading Off Peak Day Return. If you're only making a limited amount of travel, it might be cheaper to use Oyster and buy a London-Reading return.
     
  5. Mike395

    Mike395 Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    2,151
    Joined:
    23 May 2009
    Location:
    Bedford
    I need to wake up, that would indeed be the best bet, rather than my advice of getting a London-Reading ticket! :oops:
     
  6. lyesbkz

    lyesbkz Member

    Messages:
    584
    Joined:
    1 Dec 2010
    Location:
    Sheffield
    I have never come across Boundary Zone tickets before, would I simply show the guard my 1-6 Travelcard along with a "Boundary Zone 6 - Reading" ticket?

    I don't have access to Avantix Traveller at the moment, and seemingly Boundary tickets can't be bought online - how much does a Boundary Zone 6 - Reading Off Peak Day Rtn cost (with Y-P discount)
     
  7. Mike395

    Mike395 Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Messages:
    2,151
    Joined:
    23 May 2009
    Location:
    Bedford
    You would indeed :)

    £6.60 (assuming you're taking the quicker route via Paddington - it's bizarrely more expensive via Waterloo at £7.40!)
     
  8. LexyBoy

    LexyBoy Established Member Fares Advisor

    Messages:
    4,460
    Joined:
    23 Jan 2009
    Location:
    North of the rivers
    How are these tickets routed?

    I note that this combination is cheaper than a Travelcard from Reading at £11.90 - hadn't realised that before!
     
  9. bb21

    bb21 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    22,756
    Joined:
    4 Feb 2010
    Undefined. There are differing opinions on here.
     
  10. LexyBoy

    LexyBoy Established Member Fares Advisor

    Messages:
    4,460
    Joined:
    23 Jan 2009
    Location:
    North of the rivers
    I'm aware of the lack of clarity around how a journey to a boundary zone is defined in general (another issue!); I was referring to the two different fares quoted by Mike395 - at least one of which must have a defined routeing instruction (I don't have Advantix at the mo). My post wasn't perhaps very clear.
     
  11. hairyhandedfool

    hairyhandedfool Established Member

    Messages:
    8,838
    Joined:
    14 Apr 2008
    'Via Slough' and 'Via Ascot'.
     
  12. LexyBoy

    LexyBoy Established Member Fares Advisor

    Messages:
    4,460
    Joined:
    23 Jan 2009
    Location:
    North of the rivers
    Thanks. Interesting that there's not an Any Permitted - the routeing flexibility of BZ tickets being half the point of them compared to buying a ticket from the last Z6 station...

    (Although the Via Ascot fare is in effect Any Permitted as it's more expensive than the Via Slough and thus valid on both routes).
     
  13. bb21

    bb21 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    22,756
    Joined:
    4 Feb 2010
    Yes I think I misunderstood what you meant. Apologies.

    Anyhow you were right to observe that the price of the combination going out of London is cheaper Route Slough than coming into London, which is Any Permitted.

    In fact, Route Ascot is also cheaper in that direction.
     
  14. island

    island Established Member

    Messages:
    9,833
    Joined:
    30 Dec 2010
    Location:
    0036
    Probably to stop arguments between SWT and FGW as to who gets how much of the fare!
     
  15. lyesbkz

    lyesbkz Member

    Messages:
    584
    Joined:
    1 Dec 2010
    Location:
    Sheffield
    Thanks for all the help, I have one final query, I wish to travel from London to Oxford tomorrow and return, breaking my journey at Reading (return only).

    Is this allowed on a Boundary Zone 6 - Oxford Off-Peak Day Return (assuming one exists) and how much would such a ticket be (with Y-P)?
     
  16. John @ home

    John @ home Established Member Fares Advisor

    Messages:
    5,092
    Joined:
    1 Mar 2008
    Boundary Zone 6 - Oxford Off-Peak Day Return with 16-25 Railcard costs £10.50 (or minimum £12 Mon-Fri from 0930 - 0959). It has Validity Code W1, which allows break of either or both legs of the journey.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page