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Yes. Shouldn't be too much longer to wait to find out who the lucky 40 are.
 
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I done my psychometrics in November

Can I ask what the exact structure was of the testing on the day?

The practice material makes no reference to there being a DFFT which I thought was in the psychometric tests?

Also is the MMI the same day or on a separate day provided you pass all the tests?
 

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Can I ask what the exact structure was of the testing on the day?

The practice material makes no reference to there being a DFFT which I thought was in the psychometric tests?

Also is the MMI the same day or on a separate day provided you pass all the tests?
Hey, can’t remember the exact structure but both of those are included. MMI being the final part of the day. You do a few tests:pass/fail, do a few more : pass/fail then I think it’s the concentration/hearing test and MMI.
 

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Well done, I had mine this morning and all went well too. Nice feeling that there are no more obstacles to jump before the hard work of training starts.
 

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Hey, can’t remember the exact structure but both of those are included. MMI being the final part of the day. You do a few tests:pass/fail, do a few more : pass/fail then I think it’s the concentration/hearing test and MMI.

Thanks for the swift reply - did you find the practice stuff they sent useful or did you access anything else that you found better?

I've only started practicing the group bourdon so far - early days I know but I'm a little concerned as I'm only managing about 8 lines and averaging one missed out per each block of 15 lines
 

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Hey everyone... eagerly awaiting news on the assessment dates and hoping I’m one of the first 40, it would be great to know where we are in the list.
Have started looking at practice tests, getting mixed messages on which ones are involved, ie some saying grey square on screen for the coordination test, some saying coloured lights and pedals.
Does anyone have any resources other than the booklet for practice tests
 

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Does anybody know if there was ever a resolution to the pay dispute, has the salary changed since the role was first advertised? O the back of that what were the concessions with shift length as I believe it was meant to reduce overtime, is that right?
 

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Can I ask what the exact structure was of the testing on the day?

The practice material makes no reference to there being a DFFT which I thought was in the psychometric tests?

Also is the MMI the same day or on a separate day provided you pass all the tests?
The DFFT is an “enhanced only” test, so unless they test to this standard, you won’t be doing this. If they used enhanced testing, you’d have done the VSE (Visual Search Exercise) at home too (I’ve not been following this thread much, but I’m working on the assumption it’s normal trainee driver Psychometric testing for them?).
 

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Does anybody know if there was ever a resolution to the pay dispute, has the salary changed since the role was first advertised? O the back of that what were the concessions with shift length as I believe it was meant to reduce overtime, is that right?
I heard that existing have been increased to 50k, but not sure what would happen with newbies
 

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The DFFT is an “enhanced only” test, so unless they test to this standard, you won’t be doing this. If they used enhanced testing, you’d have done the VSE (Visual Search Exercise) at home too (I’ve not been following this thread much, but I’m working on the assumption it’s normal trainee driver Psychometric testing for them?).

Hi, thanks for replying - we haven't done any online tests so far just an interview to get to this stage and I believe only National standard is required for this role (I'm not 100% certain though!)
It makes sense that DFFT wasn't in the practice material then so that's one less to worry about I guess.

It concerns me a bit that a lot of the practice material seems to bear little similarity to the real tests from what I've read and the computer tests can't really be prepared for at all!?

I'm surprised there isn't more out there to assist given you only get two go's at this!
 

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Hi, thanks for replying - we haven't done any online tests so far just an interview to get to this stage and I believe only National standard is required for this role (I'm not 100% certain though!)
It makes sense that DFFT wasn't in the practice material then so that's one less to worry about I guess.

It concerns me a bit that a lot of the practice material seems to bear little similarity to the real tests from what I've read and the computer tests can't really be prepared for at all!?

I'm surprised there isn't more out there to assist given you only get two go's at this!

I took the tests in April 2017 so a lot of this is from memory but what I'd say is read through the practice material as although the practice examples are different the descriptions of the tests are fairly accurate as to what will happen on the day. If you've read about it on here you'll be fairly well prepared. These are my recollections but it is from a couple of years back. There's group bourdon papers available on here to print off and practice rather than the letters they give you on the practice material.
As I say the group bourdon is well known so the others are:
TEA-occ paper test is exactly as described in the practice material like a yellow pages where you quickly have to scan for data, such as the number of restaurants or barbers on the page or in a certain area by the code. You do this whilst counting beeps in the background (ours was a lift and you had to count the beeps to know which floor it was on).
The TRP is a simple school comprehension style question, listen to and read a paragraph of text and then answer questions on it. There will be technical data to recall so practice using something like a car manual and get someone to ask you questions on it after.
The second TRP is exactly as the practice material, I'm sure again I found some stuff online by searching cables and dials to get more of an idea.
As for the computerised tests, the WAFV is simply staring at a screen watching a flashing grey dot for half an hour, when it goes dark you click and that's it. I practised by downloading a reaction test app on my phone and followed what they recommended in the practice material when driving and saw a certain colour car quickly tapped a finger to react.
The ATAVT I found by far the hardest, an image flashes up and you have to answer questions, how many cars etc? The image seems to disappear almost instantly. Do as they suggest and use magazine cuttings and others to help you by flashing it up in front of your face and then asking what you saw but nearly all of us on the day I was there thought we failed this one.
The 2hand co-ordination I found video games helped massively if you play Fifa or COD you'll be fine but I did also use the diagrams provided which helped. The advice I got was work quickly but as accurate as you can you can go outside but if you do correct it quickly.
The SJE I can't recall, think we'd already done it online previously but it's just always putting safety first.
The MMI you need to provide examples of when you've dealt with an emergency, communicated something clearly and other similar safety orientated situations, there's loads of info on here also, you'll write them down first and then be interviewed and challenged on what you've said and how it made you feel, it can be like a cross examination but remain clam and focused on what you did and how it helped the situation, a bit like a competency interview stick to STAR method (what was Situation, what were your Tasks, what Actions did you take, what was the Result).
Good luck with it
 

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Hi, thanks for replying - we haven't done any online tests so far just an interview to get to this stage and I believe only National standard is required for this role (I'm not 100% certain though!)
It makes sense that DFFT wasn't in the practice material then so that's one less to worry about I guess.

It concerns me a bit that a lot of the practice material seems to bear little similarity to the real tests from what I've read and the computer tests can't really be prepared for at all!?

I'm surprised there isn't more out there to assist given you only get two go's at this!
The actual tests aren’t identical to the practice material, as you say. However the idea is that you have an awareness of the kind of thing to expect. These tests and really tests you can practice for as such, and reply instead on your natural attributes, hence why there’s a limit as to how many attempts you can have.
 

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What did the medical involve? I’m often over on BMI scales although wouldn’t say I am overweight but still bit nervous

It was height and weight/BMI, blood pressure, eye sight (distance and close up, with and without specs if you wear them), colour blind test, hearing test, ECG, breathalyser, urine.

I am overweight and passed, so hopefully nothing to worry about for you.
 

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It was height and weight/BMI, blood pressure, eye sight (distance and close up, with and without specs if you wear them), colour blind test, hearing test, ECG, breathalyser, urine.

I am overweight and passed, so hopefully nothing to worry about for you.
Thanks, appreciate it
 

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It was height and weight/BMI, blood pressure, eye sight (distance and close up, with and without specs if you wear them), colour blind test, hearing test, ECG, breathalyser, urine.

I am overweight and passed, so hopefully nothing to worry about for you.

Slightly worried about the eye test if they test without glasses (if I make it though the assessment day). My vision is pretty bad without glasses but very good with.

Does anyone know the standard of vision without glasses?
 

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Slightly worried about the eye test if they test without glasses (if I make it though the assessment day). My vision is pretty bad without glasses but very good with.

Does anyone know the standard of vision without glasses?
The RSSB medical standards are on another thread on here as was looking yesterday. Up to +5 hypermetropia and -8 myopia. I’m -5.5 and vision although almost perfect with lenses is poor without
 

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The RSSB medical standards are on another thread on here as was looking yesterday. Up to +5 hypermetropia and -8 myopia. I’m -5.5 and vision although almost perfect with lenses is poor without

Thanks for the reply. Will have to look into what my sight is currently at. Think I’m more worried for the eye test than the actual assessment day.
 

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Slightly worried about the eye test if they test without glasses (if I make it though the assessment day). My vision is pretty bad without glasses but very good with.

Does anyone know the standard of vision without glasses?
I can't see a barn , let alone the barn door , without my glasses/lenses and I passed.
 
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