Victoria line new stock

[Class377/5]

I think people forget that the cost of platform edge doors is £1m per platform. This means the Victoria Line would cost £33m (16 stations plus the extra platform at Seven Sisters).

That and the fact you'd have to close the line for a few weeks until all doors were fixed and the line tested means it's a non starter.

 

[DavyCrocket]

I think people forget that the cost of platform edge doors is £1m per platform. This means the Victoria Line would cost £33m (16 stations plus the extra platform at Seven Sisters).

That and the fact you'd have to close the line for a few weeks until all doors were fixed and the line tested means it's a non starter.

I think that PEDs would cost more than that!

 

[anonymous0101]

The driver training for the new 'S' stock, for the Metropolitan line starts soon. My son is a driver on this line, and starts his induction on the new stock, next month.

I hope the new trains' performance isn't badly restricted the way 1995 stock on the Northern line is.

 

[Dstock7080]

That and the fact you'd have to close the line for a few weeks until all doors were fixed and the line tested means it's a non starter.

Hong Kong MTR retrofitted PEDs to 30 stations without platform closures, Paris Line 1 (as has been said above) is having similar work done.

 

[jon0844]

I bet neither are paying as much as we'd have to pay either. Well, possibly Paris, but probably not HK.

 

[Class377/5]

I think that PEDs would cost more than that!

True, I was using the price off the JLE, so 12 years ago they were £1m per platform. Now alot more.

Hong Kong MTR retrofitted PEDs to 30 stations without platform closures, Paris Line 1 (as has been said above) is having similar work done.

I doubt it would be allowed on our system. Your talking about closing platform off to passengers and having trains whizz through. Even if they can do some work it's not going to be easy and H&S won't allow people to work a foot from moving trains unprotected.

Sadly tho as PED would help reduce incidents (not just people on the track) but one thing is if a train isn't in the right place you could have a situation where 6 or 7 cars are on the platform but not passenger can escape. If there's a fire in the train that having PED could slow down the evacuation and possible cost lives and everyone tries to escape from the front of the train.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Units 11019 / 11020 were running in passenger service yesterday ( 16th ); the highest numbered I have seen. A member of staff did say, however, that they now have a total of 11 of the new trains comissioned, which implies that units 11021 / 11022 are running ( assuming 11011 / 11002 aren't still stuffed full of test equipment; if they are then that implies 11023 / 11024 may be in traffic already.

 

[Metadyneman]

Just as a matter of interest. What is happening to the '67 stock? Is it going for scrap or are LU going to use it elsewhere?

 

[Engineer EA]

Just as a matter of interest. What is happening to the '67 stock? Is it going for scrap or are LU going to use it elsewhere?

There had been talk of holding on to some units for conversion to run with the '72 stock on the Bakerloo if the line were to be extended back to Watford Junction. My guess though is that nearly all will be sold for scrap.

 

[Fincra5]

I think they are going to get scrapped.

 

[Goldfish62]

I think they are going to get scrapped.

Some have indeed been scrapped already.

 

[Voyager 2093]

Some have indeed been scrapped already.

A lot have been to Acton works for scrapping. The rumour was to keep some for the Bakerloo's conversion but that plan was scrapped itself. Apparently the Bakerloo is to get 1992TS trains in the near future but I'll let Gavelex expand on that .

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Acton? I thought they were being sent on low loaders up to Booths in Rotherham?

 

[DavyCrocket]

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[Voyager 2093]

Acton? I thought they were being sent on low loaders up to Booths in Rotherham?

I'll look into it. I was quoted by a manager that they went to Acton Works.

 

[LE Greys]

So is any of the 67-Stock going to the IoWR?

 

[starrymarkb]

So is any of the 67-Stock going to the IoWR?

No - They want 73 stock. Lack of cabside doors is one issue I can think of (regs require the driver to have a separate door for access to the track etc and as new stock to the mainline it won't be covered by the exemptions to BR era stock like the 156)

 

[A60K]

And they might be waiting a while for 73 stock now, given the uncertainty about the Piccadilly Line upgrade.

 

[Dstock7080]

+1. 09ts ooff the low loader, 67ts on and off for scrapping

'09s are delivered to Northumberland Park, the '67s are taken away from Acton Works.
Indeed 3119+3001 heading into the Works this morning.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Crikey! I saw units 01 and 19 in traffic just last week! Shows how quickly the axe is falling on them.

Is there a date yet for total changeover?

 

[Metadyneman]

Seems a shame to scrap a perfectly working train. The '67 stock is hardly "life expired" in my opinion... maybe I'm the one getting old lol

 

[Fincra5]

Yea but where else would they go?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Yea but where else would they go?

XC, towed behind a Voyager...!!!:roll:

 

[Voyager 2093]

Seems a shame to scrap a perfectly working train. The '67 stock is hardly "life expired" in my opinion... maybe I'm the one getting old lol

I agree. I think they should have put them on the Bakerloo and axe the 1972MKII Stock, those in my opinion are life expired.

 

[Engineer EA]

I agree. I think they should have put them on the Bakerloo and axe the 1972MKII Stock, those in my opinion are life expired.

I presume you are saying the ‘72s were less well built than the 1967 TS.

 

[Voyager 2093]

I presume you are saying the ‘72s were less well built than the 1967 TS.

What I'm saying is the 67s should stay in service I'm sure many people would agree and the 72 axed because in my humble opinion 67ts do the job better than 72ts .

 

[Goldfish62]

What I'm saying is the 67s should stay in service I'm sure many people would agree and the 72 axed because in my humble opinion 67ts do the job better than 72ts .

They're both rubbish trains IMO.

 

[starrymarkb]

What I'm saying is the 67s should stay in service I'm sure many people would agree and the 72 axed because in my humble opinion 67ts do the job better than 72ts .

They are identical - only differences are one has ATO gear and the other doesn't and one has 8 cars and the other 7!

 

[Fincra5]

Apart from the inside too, the 72s were refurbished with LED matix infromation screens, improved lighting, etc.

 

[A60K]

No, those are 73 Stock on the Piccadilly - rather different trains.