May I ask what services these 25 coach trains were running?Early coaches were only 4 weels (2 axles); they were followed by 6 wheel coaches, and 8 wheel bogie coaches only started to become common in the late 19th century. Moreover, some of the early bogie coaches were not much longer than 50 feet.
In WW2, some 25 coach trains were known to have used Kings Cross -- but the loco & front coaches would have been in the tunnel at the north end of the station....
As far as I know, they were ordinary passenger services, operating on a reduced wartime timetable. I read about it many years ago (can't remeber where), and I thnk was just an occasional occurrence, not an everyday event.May I ask what services these 25 coach trains were running?
I'd be intreagued to know how a 25 coach train would work when it reached destinations outside Kings Cross. I mean, very little of the train could have fit into smaller stations.
Think there was a similar one to Brighton around that time.An excursion from Nottingham in 1840 had 4 engines, 67 carriages and carried 3,000 passengers.
An excursion from Nottingham in 1840 had 4 engines, 67 carriages and carried 3,000 passengers.
Front coaches entrain/detrain, train pulls forward, some more coaches entrain/detrain?
Most likely this incident on 4 February 1945, resulting in two deaths and 26 injuries. There were 17 carriages involved.There was a train out of Kings Cross at the end of WW2, consisting of 23 or 24 carriages behind an A4 Pacific. It stalled in Copenhagen Tunnel and ran backwards towards the platforms with disastrous consequences.
I'm not sure of the exact date or details but perhaps someone could provide a link?
'The next station has a short platform and the doors will open on the front 8 coaches only. Please move forward to alight at the next station. You are in coach 65 of 67.'
Might have been the same excursionThink there was a similar one to Brighton around that time.An excursion from Nottingham in 1840 had 4 engines, 67 carriages and carried 3,000 passengers.
Might have been the same excursion
Back in them days, people would simply use a bit of common sense and alight and board the coaches that were on the platforms. Simple.I'd be intreagued to know how a 25 coach train would work when it reached destinations outside Kings Cross. I mean, very little of the train could have fit into smaller stations.
Similarly, TGV Réseau sets can double up and run 16 carriages together.ICE trains in Germany often run to 14 carriages with two units together.
Of course, we had 14-car trains (plus two power-cars) when GNER used the class 373/2s on its White Rose service. (Although, the carriages are only about 19m long - 4m shorter than a mark IV carriage.)14 or 12 carriages would certainly improve things on the ECML.
Most likely this incident on 4 February 1945, resulting in two deaths and 26 injuries. There were 17 carriages involved.