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They did. First bid lower.
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overthewater
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So E&M never put in the bid? That could be a good sign for lothian trying to win x40.
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How safe is Whole LCB operations with the new management in place? I think were going to see X17 or 275 merged and trimmed back. I still dont think x38 will come back. I could see X18 plus X27/x28 staying for now, but I could be wrong.
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How safe is Whole LCB operations with the new management in place? I think were going to see X17 or 275 merged and trimmed back. I still dont think x38 will come back. I could see X18 plus X27/x28 staying for now, but I could be wrong.
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Looks like First Bus are also starting a new route 18, from Edinburgh - Bathgate. I am guessing this is to compete with the X18? Also interesting that unlike the X38, they have numbered this 18 instead of X18 for more competition.
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It's a West Lothian council Tender....... it has one journey on a sunday morning around 7am.
Looks like First Bus are also starting a new route 18, from Edinburgh - Bathgate. I am guessing this is to compete with the X18? Also interesting that unlike the X38, they have numbered this 18 instead of X18 for more competition.
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It's just a renumbered single journey so they don't have 2 service 20s
Makes sense, thanks for confirming!
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So Tomorrow is the last day for Sunday service 20 before its renumbered?
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I believe technically, yes, tomorrow is the last day of Lothian operating the 20 and 63, however in the current emergency timetable neither of them run on Sundays (note: the routes aren't being renumbered, they're just changing operator from Lothian City to First Bus).
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Does anyone know why fleet 1028-1049 still aren't back? I'd have expected them to be back already, to allow 441-450 to go back to City.
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Graham Alexand
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Sorry for the misunderstanding i ment First bus west lothians current 20 which will be renumbered to 18 soon i didnt know if it was this week or not, thanks
Route 18 next runs on the 6th of September (First Sunday after the changes) (that is what the website says). So it should be renumbered between Monday 31st and September 5th.Sorry for the misunderstanding i ment First bus west lothians current 20 which will be renumbered to 18 soon i didnt know if it was this week or not, thanks
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overthewater
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it is council tender. It is not new and the current passengers will not notice the change.
I Get that, I was replying to some asking when the route is getting renumbered.
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Ok, thanks
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Hopefully passengers expecting to catch a number 20 will be aware they should look for number 18 next week. Might not be clear to everyone. Although the number of passengers must be pretty close to zero, so maybe no great loss.
On the Edinburgh tenders starting tomorrow have First publicised the routes in addition to timing points? For extensions to present contracts these may not be obvious. For example does the 63 follow First's traditional Bavelaw Road route in Balerno or does it copy Lothian's 44 loop? Or something different (like both ways on Johnsburn Road)?
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None of the bus stops in that area have the 63 on it.
The only publicity is social media.
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63241/44/46/47/49 are the buses being used for the first day of the 20/63. Dart 43861 is on the 68.
I thought the old Darts would make an appearance. Quite a downgrade for the passengers over what Waverley used to run but vehicle age / emissions obviously not part of the contract so nothing stopping First running whatever they please.
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I agree, i was a bit surprised to see the Dart in use, although it's well presented so not a huge issue. I think they were due to be coming off this year, but the delayed Glasgow vehicle order has seen them last probably in to next year. I'm surprised they didn't do up one of the E200s instead.
43861 - EG52 FGJ - First Scotland East
31.08.20 - Dart 43861 is pictured on Durar Drive as it works service 68.
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If people have seen the trouble the council has created on the road network around the 68 route, Then the emissions on this bus doesn't really matter..
I agree, i was a bit surprised to see the Dart in use, although it's well presented so not a huge issue. I think they were due to be coming off this year, but the delayed Glasgow vehicle order has seen them last probably in to next year. I'm surprised they didn't do up one of the E200s instead.
43861 - EG52 FGJ - First Scotland East
31.08.20 - Dart 43861 is pictured on Durar Drive as it works service 68.
18 years old, quite the downgrade!
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I would agree, albeit the previous operator did have a E200 with Urban 90 seats which is surely worse.
Before Lockdown, they operated an Enviro 200 MMC. However throughout lockdown they operated their E200 again.
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Indeed, as I say at least the Dart is well presented, same couldn't be said for the previous operator...
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Sounds like quite a lot of vehicles to cover three routes - and possibly more drivers than passengers today.
Judging by the First app it looks like the 63 route is a one way loop around Balerno, with at least 25 minutes of layover at the half way point. I'm not sure why they do this - it's either inconvenient to catch the bus in the first place or inconvenient to get home at the end of the journey. I'm not convinced this service will be troubled by many passengers, but I suppose time will tell.
Jordan Adam
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The routes and timetables are down to the council. I suspect when full timetable resumes things will be more efficient.
Graham Alexand
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Lothian Buses Volvo 7900H 50 (BT64 LJK) was on route X27 today (31/08/2020).
I remember a while back where people were talking about them going to the Lothian Country fleet (well speculating) i think this will probably be the closest that they will be in the Lothian Country fleet, could be wrong though.
This is the link to the date 31/08/2020 .
This is the link to the date 31/08/2020 .
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/barberbus/50290328657/in/datetaken/ (not my pic)Lothian Buses Volvo 7900H 50 (BT64 LJK) was on route X27 today (31/08/2020).
I remember a while back where people were talking about them going to the Lothian Country fleet (well speculating) i think this will probably be the closest that they will be in the Lothian Country fleet, could be wrong though.
This is the link to the date 31/08/2020 .
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