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What makes London London?

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Bromley boy

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I wonder what they think about London Oxford and London Ashford airports then!

Quite.

Lydd (London Ashford) airport is over 70 miles from London and is actually closer to France than it is to the capital. Manston (before it closed to become a lorry park) was a similar distance, perhaps a little less.
 
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London is a brilliant city, but if you assume that a certain proportion of all the people anywhere are complete and utter tools then there are more of them in London even if the ratio is the same. London also attracts tools, and tools make more noise, so at times London seems like it's full of them! ;)

For people from the provinces, London is so much bigger and busier than everywhere else that it's just simply exhausting to spend more than a couple of days there.
 

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I would say the exact opposite that this thread is for insular moaning unfriendly Londoners who think that everybody north of Watford is an ignorant bigoted fool.

It's a shame people can't just accept that different places around the country have advantages and disadvantages and it's a case of each to their own. I love London and have always lived here but equally I can see the disadvantages very clearly and can well understand why others choose to live elsewhere.

There's always an undercurrent of north-south resentment bubbling away just under the surface, which sadly tends to break out on threads like this!
 

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It's a shame people can't just accept that different places around the country have advantages and disadvantages and it's a case of each to their own. I love London and have always lived here but equally I can see the disadvantages very clearly and can well understand why others choose to live elsewhere.

There's always an undercurrent of north-south resentment bubbling away just under the surface, which sadly tends to break out on threads like this!

I agree but I was only responding to a slur about non-Londoners, I wouldn't have replied otherwise.
 

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I dunno...even being born a Northerner I don't *hate* it, I enjoy a day trip. But I really, really wouldn't want to live there.

A poor attempt at humour. i quite like London. I just think as anywhere familiarity breads contempt. It is a an interesting and vibrant city and i quite like just getting off at a random central tube stop and taking a wander in a random direction.
 

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A poor attempt at humour. i quite like London. I just think as anywhere familiarity breads contempt. It is a an interesting and vibrant city and i quite like just getting off at a random central tube stop and taking a wander in a random direction.

It is, but sometimes it's nice to get out at the end. I wasn't being humourous, it's just too fast-paced and aggressive for me to want to be there all the time.
 

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It is, but sometimes it's nice to get out at the end. I wasn't being humourous, it's just too fast-paced and aggressive for me to want to be there all the time.
i was trying to be humorous! I know exactly what you mean about the pace. Rush hour on the tube is just bonkers. I couldn't hack it. i would snap after a couple of years.
 

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Don’t forget it’s a big place. The centre of town may be hectic but the suburbs are quieter.
 

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Well full disclosure - I went to University in London and I love the place. I still get a buzz when getting a train from Preston and arriving in Euston. It is a city that has been around for 2 millennia. It is ranked along with New York as the two top cities in the world - needs airports, key finance center, historicity, arts, subways and buses etc. I love London. Extremely cosmopolitan too.
 

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There is nowhere else like London. There is just so much to do there. Despite it being a very busy place, there are still so many places you can go and relax - Highgate Wood, the Northern Heights walk, Richmond Park etc etc. I once walked through Highgate Wood and saw about two other people in the whole time there (it was a weekday though). I really like how cosmopolitan it is, with people from all sorts of cultures (even if some bigoted people don't like all the different cultures). It also has possibly the best transport system in the world (greatly contrasting to the rest of the UK, imo!), and I am a huge fan of TfL.

The busyness of the city can get far too much sometimes, especially trying to travel by Tube at peak times. I've travelled across Europe, and the only place which had such a busy and overcrowded Metro system was Paris. Travelling on the Berlin U-Bahn at peak times was like travelling on London's Tube on a Sunday morning. But the busyness is a minor thing in the grand scheme of things.

I previously lived in the London suburbs, and it was such a dreary place. If you wanted to do anything of interest, you had to catch the Tube to somewhere more interesting. I now live further from London, in Kent. With the high-speed train, it only takes me about 10 minutes more to travel to Central London. I certainly prefer living here, for the quality of life, more countryside, and beaches. I still live in a fairly 'cosmopolitan' area though which is Canterbury - a uni city with lots of different people, and a good night life. But, I still love visiting London and can always find something new to do there.
 

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Sir Arthur Conan Doyle summed up London very nicely in "A Study in Scarlet":

"...London, that great cesspool into which all the loungers and idlers of the Empire are irresistibly drained"

I'm sure something still drains into London today. ;)
 

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Hey guys. This is one for my fellow Brits, what in London are you most proud of?
I'm proud of how easy it is to leave. Excellent transport connections. Something to be admired considering it is only the countrys second city after Liverpool.

Apologies, I had to say that as a scouser. Ha ha. The thing I love the most about London is the diversity of people there. If it wasn't for the amazing and well known sites there you could be anywhere in the world thanks to the people who both live and visit there. A very close second is the Underground, it is absolutely amazing. Third best thing would be my mates house in Weybridge, I swear he must have been on the rob to pay for it, he is a scouser mind. Ha ha. It is really nice around there (Not really London though, close enough).

Got to say though, I still prefer Liverpool, it is a more livable size.
 

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In Camden I've seen goths wearing the sort of clothing, you'd get bottled for if you wore in somewhere like Liverpool, drag queens, trans people, 1970s punks, Rockabilly pinup girls, 1920s dandys, people in Victorian and turn of the century gear, etc. I doubt you could get that kind of variety of self expression in that kind of intensity elsewhere in the country, perhaps with the exception of Brighton.

Nonsense. Most of this countrys extreme metal bands are from outside London for starters, I can't off the top of my head think of one from London. Not entirely sure why you picked on Liverpool, it has a very lively alternative scene (For starters of a weekend it is full of Cockney men dressed as women on Stag parties). Camden is boss though.
 

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It would be petty to mention the reputation of your own capital in that context, so I won't...

There are no public phoneboxes in the Netherlands.
 

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I'd say multiculturalism , and the fact that that the place is busy and teeming with life

Personally , I love cycling in Central London . Despite the danger , you do get an adrenaline rush by zipping down the streets on two wheels , leaving people behind in traffic , although there's always one annoying suit on a Boris Bike

Also the insane traffic means it takes forever to go anywhere in the peaks

Also places like Camden and Shoreditch . And the Notting Hill Carnival . I could go on....
 

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Peckham... ;)

Seriously though, there's no other place in the UK like London. The diversity, the people, the places to go, the things to do...

All pressed into one city!

If only London was cheaper, then I'd move there when I'm older.
 

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Also , roadmen

It isn't London if there aren't roadmen , normally outside Westfield Stratford
 

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If only it still had EPB's.

Agree totally - the South lost it's heart with the end of the EPB's stock - bliss it was to be on a Summer evening at the Founders Arms with Sevenoaks and Catford EPB's heading over Blackfriars Bridge.

And that rarely hear "fart" horn......
 

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I like London just because there is so much to do, both rail and non-rail related. You barely ever finish exploring the places you know, and as soon as you've done that there's something else!
 

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I would say the exact opposite that this thread is for insular moaning unfriendly Londoners who think that everybody north of Watford is an ignorant bigoted fool.
I was born in South London and when I moved up to Staffordshire it was like a blessed relief to live amongst ordinary people who said please and thank-you and knew what a queue was.
I will travel to London only if it's absolutely essential, it's just a hole.
The best thing about London is how fast the train travels to get out.

I'm not a Londoner, one half of the family is from a village just outside of Reading, they remind me quite a bit of country bumpkins and the other half of the family is from Yorkshire.
As soon as I was of the age to travel, I was travelling there out of curiosity of this city 25 mins away that the rest of my family despised.

I instantly fell in love with the place. I think loved that how busy the place was, it affords you a kind of anonymity and despite being constantly around other people, you can escape from human contact for a while far better than going up the side of a mountain, but should you so choose, all you need to do is step into a bar or pub and get your fill of socialising again.

I then moved from Reading to Chester, I'm glad for you that Stafford felt like home (I can't quite see the attraction of Stafford myself), as when I moved up north it didn't for me, where the locals where initially friendly, I then started to feel like an outsider and the slower pace of life and lack of work got quite grating as well.

Nonsense. Most of this countrys extreme metal bands are from outside London for starters, I can't off the top of my head think of one from London. Not entirely sure why you picked on Liverpool, it has a very lively alternative scene (For starters of a weekend it is full of Cockney men dressed as women on Stag parties). Camden is boss though.

Most bands start off outside London, but then often end up in London. Living in Chester I did regularly visit Liverpool but the place didn't exactly strike a chord, the city centre felt like a few shopping centres and not much else. In fact I preferred Manchester as it seemed to have a better variety of culture. If I had a choice between living in northern cities, I'd chose Manchester.
 

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Well full disclosure - I went to University in London and I love the place. I still get a buzz when getting a train from Preston and arriving in Euston. It is a city that has been around for 2 millennia. It is ranked along with New York as the two top cities in the world - needs airports, key finance center, historicity, arts, subways and buses etc. I love London. Extremely cosmopolitan too.

I still remember the genuine buzz of arriving at Euston for the very first time as a 10 year old. Getting on the tube for the first time, seeing Piccadilly Circus for the first time. The buzz of the place.

Although having lived in London, one starts to forget what the countryside looks like after a while...
 

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i was trying to be humorous! I know exactly what you mean about the pace. Rush hour on the tube is just bonkers. I couldn't hack it. i would snap after a couple of years.
London , in terms of pace and "attitude" is a mere hamlet - compared to New York City.....
 

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Agree totally - the South lost it's heart with the end of the EPB's stock - bliss it was to be on a Summer evening at the Founders Arms with Sevenoaks and Catford EPB's heading over Blackfriars Bridge.

And that rarely hear "fart" horn......

The Founders Arms with 'Waterloo Sunset' playing somewhere in the background. We must be soulmates!
 
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