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If that isn't enough to convince people, I don't know what will!For the 37 fans amongst you, I give you this...
“COME ON!!!”
Totally Dreadful!
If that isn't enough to convince people, I don't know what will!For the 37 fans amongst you, I give you this...
“COME ON!!!”
Excuse my ignorance but what actually is the difference with the cabs? I could never see a difference in photos.Loco's - Class 45, 50, 56.
DMU - Cravens 105, Swindon 120.
Set - HST with Valenta engine and original cab.
Excuse my ignorance but what actually is the difference with the cabs? I could never see a difference in photos.
As a child, I used to spend a lot of time at Beeston station. We used to get a lot of coal and tanker traffic through at that time. With lots of different locomotives. 20, 31, 37, 47, 56, 58 and the odd 45 pulling the few remaining loco hauled trains into Nottingham.
I hated the 37s because of the noise and the terrible pollution. And whenever at 47 came through, I hoped it was 'Rail Riders'. But for some reason, I loved the 20. I couldn't understand why on earth they would make locomotives that had to work in pairs. Later I went on the Jolly Fisherman to Skegness behnd a pair, and the sound, and the whole experience was amazing.
I still hold a fond memory for class 20s, and now I live in London, occassionally get to see them outside Neasden Depot on the Underground.
Of course, they are rubbish. But at the same time, they are magical, and I can't think if a loco I love more.
Ah, the Class 141, especially in the Verona Green and Buttermilk livery. The ends of the passenger sections had sliding doors (which never properly locked shut) and seats which could be folded up to allow for cycles, parcels and pushchairs. Wonder if we could get the Iranians to give them back?Out of the first generation DMUs, the Class 108 was my favourite. The interiors of them looked modern, even by 1980s standards compared to other classes of DMU. The same can be said of the Class 101s, but I never liked the styling of them.
Of the second generation DMUs, the Class 141 was my favourite. I am not generally interested in electric traction as they don't have any character compared to diesel. I would however rate the Class 323 as a favourite.
Westerns, still yet to see one in person!
I really like the class 56 for its looks as well as its sounds.
But not a genuine Thumper Buffet
I prefer the all-over coal dust livery that the Gateshead fleet carried. When a 37 came back from Doncaster works looking immaculate it stood out a mile.Class 37 In BR Sector Livery or Large Logo Blue
The look, the Sound (and the noise)
This is a public service announcement.I hated the 37s because of the noise and the terrible pollution.
56s reused the basic bodyshell design from the 47, a rare example of BR cost-cutting done right. Always thought that 56s had a very industrial look and sound about them that went with the MGR work they were often used on. Had a passenger sub-fleet been produced (as was proposed at one point) they'd have looked and sounded somewhat out of place IMO.I think 56s look similar to a 47, well Brush. Mind you I thought the pinnacle of that modern two window shape slightly pointed was the class 35 Hymek. It makes me think the whole exterior was carefully designed to look right. Just like the Westerns but with a totally different basis.
56s reused the basic bodyshell design from the 47, a rare example of BR cost-cutting done right. Always thought that 56s had a very industrial look and sound about them that went with the MGR work they were often used on. Had a passenger sub-fleet been produced (as was proposed at one point) they'd have looked and sounded somewhat out of place IMO.
Now you are talking , 24/1 with headcode boxes and twin headlights fitted , interestingly usually saw the 24 leading southbound and 26 leading NorthboundA class 24/26 combination on the Glasgow/Edinburgh to Inverness services which once was.
And that was based on the 37s engine which, in turn is the twelve cylinder version of the 16 cylinder version in the class 40. And the engine goes back further than that to the LMS diesel twins.56 uses an updated EE engine, so is essentially a 47 with a 50 engine in it!
I prefer the all-over coal dust livery that the Gateshead fleet carried. When a 37 came back from Doncaster works looking immaculate it stood out a mile.
Large logo does look good on the 37s, mind.
What was the configuration of the 16 cylinder engine in the 56’s please, was it a V engine or 2 parallel rows of 8 cylinders?Totally agree, always wished that BR had gone ahead and converted some for IC Crosscountry, sadly not to be though. (What a coincidence, just as I'm typing this a pair of them have just rumbled by!)
What configuration was the 16 cylinder engine in the 56 please? Was it a V engine or two 8 cylinder rows?
V engine.What was the configuration of the 16 cylinder engine in the 56’s please, was it a V engine or 2 parallel rows of 8 cylinders?
What configuration was the 16 cylinder engine in the 56 please? Was it a V engine or two 8 cylinder rows?
Was it !2 cylinder ?.
Ah. I never knew the 56 and 58 had a different number of cylinders. So not a simple progression from 37 to 58 via 56 !.56 was 16 cylinder, 58 had 12 cylinder version.
Ah. I never knew the 56 and 58 had a different number of cylinders. So not a simple progression from 37 to 58 via 56 !.
Thanks,,As far as I'm aware it should be in a V configuration.