When Will It All Go Wrong For The Tories/ Johnson?

[jfollows]

The first of many.

Sky saying that Javid spoke to many in the Cabinet over the weekend and some of them may well decide to resign now also.

Rishi Sunak has resigned also say Sky

 

[Acfb]

Sunak gone now too.

 

[Domh245]

Rishi Sunak has resigned also say Sky

Confirmed on twitter:

https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1544368323625947137?

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edit to add letter in quote form:

Dear Prime Minister,
It is with deep sadness that I am writing to you to resign from the Government.

It has been an enormous privilege to serve our country as Chancellor of the Exchequer and I will always be produ of how during the pandemic we protected people's jobs and business though actions such as furlough.

To leave ministerial office is a serious matter at any time. For me to step down as Chancellor while the world is suffering the economic consequences of the pandemic, the war in Ukraine and other serious challenges is a decision that I have not take lightly.

However the public rightly expect government to be conducted properly, competently, and seriously. I recognised this may be my last ministerial job, but I believe these standards are worth fighting for and that is why I am resigning.

I have been loyal to you. I backed you to become Leader of our Party and encouraged other to do so. I have served as your Chancellor with gratitude that you entrusted me with stewardship of the nation's economy and finances. Above all, I have respected the powerful mandate given tyo you by the British people in 2019 and how under your leadership we broke the Brexit deadlock.

That is why I have always tried to compromise in order to deliver the things you want to achieve. On those occasions where I disagreed with you privately, I have supported you publicly. That is the nature of the collective government upon which our system relies and it is particularly important that the Prime Minister and Chancellor remain united in hard times such as those we are experiencing today

Our country if facing immense challenges. We both want a low-tax, high-growth economy, and world class public services, but this can only be responsibly delivered if we are prepared to work hard, make sacrifices and take difficult decisions.

I firmly believe the public are ready to hear that truth. Our people know that if something is too good to be true then it's not true. They need to know that whilst there is a path to a better future, it is not an easy one. In preparation for our proposed joint speech on the economy next week, it has become clear to me that our approaches are fundamentally too different.

I am sad to be leaving Government but I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that we cannot continue like this.

Kind Regards,

Rishi Sunak

The terrifying prospect now, is who's going to be replacing these resignations in the cabinet whilst Boris desperately clings on? It's hardly swimming with talent.. Chancellor Dorries is a terrifying prospect

 

[kristiang85]

As I said a couple of hours ago, this is it.

 

[jfollows]

Sunak gone now too.

"Government should be run properly, competently & seriously"

 

[Busaholic]

Confirmed on twitter:

https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1544368323625947137?

Patel, Raab, Lewis and Barclay the least likely to resign, other than Dorries of course

 

[jfollows]

Patel, Raab, Lewis and Barclay the least likely to resign, other than Dorries of course

Them and a whole bunch of others who are so dim and useless that they'd never be given a job by anyone else in charge, and only got their jobs in the first place because of their sycophantic loyalty to Boris Johnson.

EDIT And, yes, one of these - Dominic Raab - has declared his loyalty to Boris Johnson, no surprise there!

 

[Typhoon]

And they were worried about Freer and Quince (who was put forward at one time to defend the Johnson knew nothing about the allegations line)?

Expect Javid or Sunak to put themselves forward as leader That has certainly out manoeuvred Truss.

Patel, Raab, Lewis and Barclay the least likely to resign, other than Dorries of course

And Coffey!

 

[brad465]

Change the title, it has gone wrong for Johnson

 

[bspahh]

The betting odds for Johnson to quit as PM in 2022 are now 1/12 (if you bet £1 and he quits this year, you get your £1 back and 8p profit)

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/boris-johnson-exit-date

 

[Shrop]

Change the title, it has gone wrong for Johnson

Absolutely! I've often despaired at the amount of Teflon that Boris has managed to surround himself with, but even I think the end must be in sight for him now. The only thing I would add is that all those sycophants who have stupidly pandered to him for so long, ought to all lose their careers too. Including Javid and Sunak for their own blind arrogance before now.

 

[jfollows]

Ernest Hemingway (The Sun Also Rises):

“How did you go bankrupt?"
Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.”​

 

[Phil56]

Absolutely! I've often despaired at the amount of Teflon that Boris has managed to surround himself with, but even I think the end must be in sight for him now. The only thing I would add is that all those sycophants who have stupidly pandered to him for so long, ought to all lose their careers too. Including Javid and Sunak for their own blind arrogance before now.

Rishi doesn't deserve a top job simply because of his incompetence as Chancellor (especially the appalling way he treated, and lied about, the 3 million excluded freelancers, self employed and zero hours workers!).

 

[Cowley]

Change the title, it has gone wrong for Johnson

You mean we might need a new thread soon!

 

[Acfb]

I have no idea how things will play out TBH.

Mordaunt, Wallace and Truss are probably the only plausible candidates who can win a Tory membership election.

Truss is '100% behind Johnson'.

 

[westv]

Rishi doesn't deserve a top job simply because of his incompetence as Chancellor (especially the appalling way he treated, and lied about, the 3 million excluded freelancers, self employed and zero hours workers!).

Although weren't some of those people who paid themselves with dividends to avoid tax?

 

[LSWR Cavalier]

I favor Theresa May as next PM, she should never have been ousted.

The resignations today, are they THE defining moment? Or have there been several defining moments, and more to come?

 

[Berliner]

I favor Theresa May as next PM, she should never have been ousted.

The resignations today, are they THE defining moment? Or have there been several defining moments, and more to come?

I doubt he's going anywhere. All we are seeing now is the ones with any shred of dignity left jumping ship. They will be replaced with die hard Boris loyalists and we'll have moved on by this time next week.

 

[Nicholas Lewis]

I favor Theresa May as next PM, she should never have been ousted.

The resignations today, are they THE defining moment? Or have there been several defining moments, and more to come?

He's wounded but not yet in a death spiral. Sunak has been after a way out to feather his own private business needs for sometime so he can try and exit with some credibility left. Javid i didn't see coming but he isn't really a sycophant if Wallace and Eustace resign that might get momentum going but even then he has so many hanger ons they will just rally rally round him and he will have even less people in the cabinet to challenge him.

 

[Acfb]

Simon Clarke rumoured to replace Sunak.

 

[Busaholic]

He's wounded but not yet in a death spiral. Sunak has been after a way out to feather his own private business needs for sometime so he can try and exit with some credibility left. Javid i didn't see coming but he isn't really a sycophant if Wallace and Eustace resign that might get momentum going but even then he has so many hanger ons they will just rally rally round him and he will have even less people in the cabinet to challenge him.

Wallace might well be next to resign imo: in fact, that might be it for the Vegetables for the moment i.e. a few junior ministers will depart too.

 

[jfollows]

Simon Clarke rumoured to replace Sunak.

who has only been an MP since 2017!

 

[Gloster]

I would be surprised if Johnson goes quickly: I would expect him to try and hang on. He might succeed or he might not but he will just try to keep going: staying in Number 10 seems to be more important than dignity? The one wild card is Carrie, who might realise before hm if he is on a hiding to nothing.

Two more days and he passes Neville Chamberlain, thirty to reach May’s total. Does that matter to him?

 

[TheEdge]

Image description. Two adorable rabbits with popcorn watching BBC news "I've waited a long time for this"

 

[Bluejays]

I favor Theresa May as next PM, she should never have been ousted.

The resignations today, are they THE defining moment? Or have there been several defining moments, and more to come?

I bet she's dancing tonight!

 

[kristiang85]

Two more days and he passes Neville Chamberlain, thirty to reach May’s total. Does that matter to him?

I'm sure it does, to be honest.

 

[Agent_Squash]

who has only been an MP since 2017!

Experience doesn’t matter, only total loyalty to the wannabe supreme leader!

 

[philosopher]

I would be surprised if Johnson goes quickly: I would expect him to try and hang on. He might succeed or he might not but he will just try to keep going: staying in Number 10 seems to be more important than dignity? The one wild card is Carrie, who might realise before hm if he is on a hiding to nothing.

Two more days and he passes Neville Chamberlain, thirty to reach May’s total. Does that matter to him?

Any sensible person would call it quits now, however Boris seems determined to stay on at all costs. I do think he will eventually go, but it will be a bitter struggle to get him to go.

 

[Busaholic]

Experience doesn’t matter, only total loyalty to the wannabe supreme leader!

His tongue has acquired the requisite patina now.

 

[Phil56]

Although weren't some of those people who paid themselves with dividends to avoid tax?

Paying dividends doesn't avoid tax. Corporation tax is paid on the profits and then personal dividend tax is paid by the recipient. All perfectly legal, by the way! But there were relatively few excluded for that reason anyway. It was one of the many Rishi/Treasury/HMRC lies that blamed company directors for paying themselves partly by dividends (many were also excluded from furlough anyway even if they paid themselves wholly in wages and paid full tax and NIC!).

The bigger groups were the 50:50 group, the over £50k group and those just recently started a new job or self employment. They were generally royally screwed by illogical eligibility rules.