E_Reeves
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The 170 livery is temp?I prefer the temp liveries over the permanent liveries. I saw 170508 a few weeks ago. It looks better than i thought when it's only a temporary livery.
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59CosG95
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Yes; the 172 livery is the permanent version.
DenmarkRail
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To make it easier for you, on which livery is going to which fleet:
Current Fleet
-Class 139: Full new livery
-Class 150: Temp livery / No new livery (TBC)
-Class 153: Temp Livery / No new livery (TBC)
-Class 170: Temp Livery
-Class 172: Full Livery
-Class 323: Temp Livery
-Class 319: TBC ( I wasn't sure if these are being replaced)
-Class 350 /1/3: Full livery
-Class 350 /2: Temp Livery
Future Fleet
-Class 172: Full livery
-Class 230: Full Livery
-Class 350/4: Full Livery
-Class 730: Full Livery
Current Fleet
-Class 139: Full new livery
-Class 150: Temp livery / No new livery (TBC)
-Class 153: Temp Livery / No new livery (TBC)
-Class 170: Temp Livery
-Class 172: Full Livery
-Class 323: Temp Livery
-Class 319: TBC ( I wasn't sure if these are being replaced)
-Class 350 /1/3: Full livery
-Class 350 /2: Temp Livery
Future Fleet
-Class 172: Full livery
-Class 230: Full Livery
-Class 350/4: Full Livery
-Class 730: Full Livery
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DavidGrain
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I have lost track on what is happening on the LNW fleet. Will those be re-liveried after the WMR fleet is completed? Are there 'Remainers' and 'Exiteers' in the LNW fleet?
59CosG95
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I think most of the "exiteers" (i.e. the 350/2s) are going to be vinyled whenever one of them comes up for an exam; 350267 was the most recent one examined.
The 350/3s are also being vinylled externally as they come up for exam; refurbs will come later.
The 350/1s also need corrosion work (similar to the /2s) before they receive an undeniably overdue full inside-and-out refurbishment, during which they'll also receive the new livery.
The 350/4s will also (AIUI) get reliveried and refurbished internally when they arrive from TPE.
The 319s I'm not so sure on; WMT have taken more on, it's true, but they'll only be a short term thing until the new Class 730 Aventras arrive.
The 153s & 150s will probably keep LM livery & WMR branding until all the 230s are in service & the Chase Line is electrified; they'll then go to EMT (the 153s) and Northern (the 150s).
E_Reeves
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Oh I saw that this morning at Gt Malvern
Has it been confirmed WMT's 153s are going to EMT?
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59CosG95
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I think I saw it in Modern Railways a couple of issues ago, or perhaps it was on here; either way, they're leaving Tyseley.
Bletchleyite
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Much, much nicer than the "proper" LNR livery, just as the "temporary" WMR one is in my eyes nicer than the proper one. They should put that on them all.
JordyWM
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Looks like a skip placed on bogies. I think those look hideous.
I agree, but can’t be good for a company to have to rely on it’s predecessors design to make their own look better.
BTW, I have noticed that all WM Trains services at stations listed on Apple Maps (including those outside of the WM area including Euston use the WMR purple logo as representative of WM Trains.
Trouble with the original (LM) livery and the outgoing temporary black style LNR livery is that it looks great from front of the train and front and slight sideways, and pretty good from a station platform, but a 4 car from totally side on looks kind of like like it has huge windows that are too tall. Because the black vinyl extends so far below the windows. Same reason why we have a little one in the family calls the LM 350 the 'caterpillar train'. The original vinyls just come down too low imo and looks better with black window vinyls no lower than the windows, when viewed sideways.
sufian123
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350373 with the first livery
350374 with offial livery
350375 with official livery
350267 with tempo livery
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E_Reeves
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What's the difference between the first livery and the official one?
59CosG95
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Not much, other than the fact that 350373 got given Pride transfers because it was the only train in LNW livery at the time.
They should have just brought the black section round the cab windows down to the bottom of the train instead of having that awful triangular look.
Has the photo been stretched in width slightly or is the large W on the side of the train a little wider than on 350373?
sufian123
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according to lnr on twitter they said 350373 will get another makeover.
Bletchleyite
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Good to see a proper yellow stripe for 1st for once. Shame that the actual 1st is worse than the Standard 
What will the difference be though? Isn't it just the same as 374 and 375 apart from the rainbows?
Bletchleyite
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It looks like it has been zoomed in, which is quite a nice effect to make it look more like a decoration and less like another instance of the W. Oxford Bus Company are quite into this, having large, faded out "Ox" on things. (This works best when there is something to break it on, e.g. the wheelarch).
I reckon I can cope with that version. They just need to remove the inner end vertical stripes as they look like a 1980s bus livery.
On further inspection it appears this is probably 350373 as the LNR logo shown there is the original one, with the curly y in 'railway', and 'London' is in a different colour which was the original style from December.
The revised logo now has 'London Northwestern' in the different shade of green to ''Railway'. And the y in railway has a straight end rather than a curly one on the revised logo.
Bletchleyite
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The more I think about it the more I like that yellow stripe. Not only does it retain the classic way of denoting 1st, it also reinforces that that is what the yellow stripe means by having the wording as part of it.
Adding a grey stripe along the bottom of the LNR livery would make it focus much less on the vertical than it does and look more sleek imo.
Looks great with the grey stripe on the bottom of the Abellio Greater Anglia MK3s:
not my image
Looks great with the grey stripe on the bottom of the Abellio Greater Anglia MK3s:
not my image
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sufian123
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i'm not sure. i can't tell the difference. according to them 350373 has launched livery. this will change. different type of paint.
TT-ONR-NRN
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Ladies and gents, I can only apologise for how out of date the original livery list is. It has been a while since I created it and I know the fleet status has altered considerably.
59CosG95 and I are not able to edit the original list at present, but I do intend to upload an update in the next coming days which hopefully can be pinned to the start of the thread by a moderator perhaps.
59CosG95 and I are not able to edit the original list at present, but I do intend to upload an update in the next coming days which hopefully can be pinned to the start of the thread by a moderator perhaps.
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