It's suggesting that he has done something worthy of punishment and that the FA will not punish him, no doubt due to some sort of hold he has over them.
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It's suggesting that he has done something worthy of punishment and that the FA will not punish him, no doubt due to some sort of hold he has over them.
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balne-wonderer
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Like I explained previously, I was the first to condemn the disgraceful Munich chants from a minority of Leeds fans in the Leeds v Man Utd game last season. I was the first to condemn Mr Cawley when he ran on the pitch and attacked Chris Kirkland this season. Read back, check the posts, you just have selective reading, you read the things you want to take offence too. I am more than honest about my team but I don't understand the 'favourite team' comment. I didn't 'choose' or 'pick' Leeds United to support, I am born and live in Leeds so it was just natural, I didn't 'select' a club to support.
If Leeds are rubbish, believe me i'll be the first to say it. Look at my comments from todays game, we were well beaten. Forest got a penalty to make it 1-1 and no arguements at all from me, didn't even mention it!
I just call things as I see it. Like I did with the Van Persie non-sense etc. Notice how Feguson has not said much about that recently.....Consistency is all that we need and ask for.
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Correct and they've played some good stuff tonight. Kenwyne Jones has been a beast up front and Walters looks good.
Liverpool can't cope with it.
And again, he was stating that based on what 5 Live said about the incident. In which case the FA need to punish him. He states he got that info from 5 Live, and having listened to 5 live myself, the way they described the incident a punishment is required.
balne-wonderer
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Sorry but why would Five Live make it up? The last time I checked managers were not allowed to do what Ferguson 'allegedly' has done. And Neil Warnock is no saint either, there's been a couple of times this season i've found myself cringing as he launches into a tirade against an official and the Football League have punished both Warnock and Leeds for it, and rightly so.
Alex Ferguson, Neil Warnock, Alan Pardew can act like they want for me but rules and rules and they need to be upheld and consistant for all. Do you see a problem in that? Sorry Joe but i'm struggling to see what i've done wrong tonight mate.
That's just what you're supposed to do! Not agreeing with Munich chants and not approving of attacking a player is not exactly an indication that you're a neutral, non blinkered person.
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I haven't searched through your posting history. I just see your recent posts and so many of them seem to be attacks at Manchester United.
We all support a team and many of us were probably born in to it. I am completely aware I could have just as easily been born in to a City, Liverpool or Leeds household which is probably the reason I can't get myself particularly worked up by these traditional rivalries. I couldn't care less about Leeds.
That's sort of the problem. You do seem to post a lot more about Manchester United than you do your own team.
I realise that pretty much all football fans and the press agree with you on that one but I do think that brain injuries are going to be one of the major issues in British sport in the next decade. It's already become a big issue in the United States where a number of retired American Football players have died in their 30s and 40s and it's being linked with repeated head injuries sustained during their careers.
GWRtom
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Bournemouth 3 'Vile 0
Happy with that.
Lewis Grabban, Harry Arter.
And Bret Pittman with a penalty in the 84th minute.
Worked it out at this rate in theory we would win the title by 8 points!
Not gonna happen, but play offs here we come
Happy with that.
Lewis Grabban, Harry Arter.
And Bret Pittman with a penalty in the 84th minute.
Worked it out at this rate in theory we would win the title by 8 points!
Not gonna happen, but play offs here we come
balne-wonderer
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onthe first point you said I never criticize Leeds or Leeds fans! I was proving that I have done when needed. that wasn't an attempt to appear neutral or whatever
, that was a direct response to your comments against me that are clearly untrue.
I see I might have written my previous post clearly enough.
When I said that I see no attacks aimed at Leeds I meant from other people rather than you.
SS4
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Could someone explain to me why Ferguson is seen as such a media darling? To me he comes across as arrogant, petulant and aloof. His claims about Manchester City getting more penalties before the derby game against his [Ferguson's] team seemed to be passed off as eccentric and his tirade against the accident involving Van Persie (who was fit enough to get a goal and an assist I note)
How can it be that Fergie time has entered the football lexicon? How do the Champions League clubs get away with large squad changes for League Cup/FA Cup and, in some cases, Premier League games when lesser teams get fined?
There are certainly some spurious claims about Manchester United but I am under the impression that Manchester United fans both individuals and in the media claim their detractors to be either jealous, conspiracy theorists or supporting teams traditionally rivals with them to sweep legitimate claims under the rug.
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@balne-warrior: What's your take on Leeds getting the takeover deal done and do you see it making a difference to your season?
How can it be that Fergie time has entered the football lexicon? How do the Champions League clubs get away with large squad changes for League Cup/FA Cup and, in some cases, Premier League games when lesser teams get fined?
There are certainly some spurious claims about Manchester United but I am under the impression that Manchester United fans both individuals and in the media claim their detractors to be either jealous, conspiracy theorists or supporting teams traditionally rivals with them to sweep legitimate claims under the rug.
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@balne-warrior: What's your take on Leeds getting the takeover deal done and do you see it making a difference to your season?
Fergie is in no sense a media darling. As posted by balne-wonderer and richw over the last couple of pages the media (BBC 5 Live) have harshly criticised him today for essentially shouting at the officials. At the same time they apparently have completely ignored the fact that the Newcastle manager manhandled the fourth official (for the second time in recent months) and that one of the Newcastle coaching staff had to be physically restrained from going after the referee.
Van Persie being fit enough to play today is irrelevant. He could have sustained an injury and there is plenty of evidence from other sports that even minor blows to the head (which that wasn't) can lead to permanent brain injuries
balne-wonderer
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hopefully the new owners will invest in the team in Jan. if not it's going to be another season of mid table mediocrity.
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with a football? or with something much more solid like a cricket or golf ball?
I've read about research that even heading a football can cause permanent brain damage over a time. There are calls to ban heading in youth football (soccer) in the United States.
There is an organisation that is dedicated to the study of brain injuries in sport, the Sports Legacy Institute. There are quite a lot of articles from the US media about them that you can find on Google.
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Absolutely disgraceful if I may say so. SO'D is the best thing Forest have had for the last few years and it shows the owners up as being nothing but big fat liars who don't really care about the wellbeing of the club. Promises, promises, promises, and all talk.
Just got off the phone with a Forest-supporting ex-housemate who is properly fuming and I don't blame him.
Hope the owners get what they deserve. Shame Forest fans who have always been very friendly when we visited have to suffer.
ACE1888
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Alex Ferguson is a very naughty boy, no one else would get away with the constant 'bullying' of Officials...untouchable indeed:roll:
United now 7 points clear, Title over anyone???
United now 7 points clear, Title over anyone???
Donny Dave
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Unsurprisingly, I have a contrary view :P I think the new owner should be talking to Warnock to see what is needed to ensure a top 8 or 10 placed finish for this season, followed by talks from February onwards to aim towards next season and the future.
Regardless of what happens over the rest of this season, I think the new owner should be planning for a Championship title assault next season and plan accordingly. IE trying to entice out of contact PL players to join the club in the summer. IMO, it's no use spending big in January to win promotion in order to spend even more in the summer to try and stay in the PL. If that is the case, then Leeds are risking everything again, just like they did in the late 90s and the early part of this century. It's far better to plan for another season in the Championship and go for promotion next season (IMO).
Incidentally, Scunthorpe United will be in the same position in the summer, as Steve Wharton is stepping dow as Chairman at the end of the season. Hopefully, a successor can be arranged in the next month or 2 so Brian Laws will know what his wage and transfer budgets will be for next season. Regardless of what happens though, I doubt Mark Duffy will be at the club much longer though. He has been by far our best player this season, plus he is out of contract at the end of June .....
Xenophon PCDGS
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Conference Premiership...local "derby" match
Stockport County 0...Hyde 2
Yet another landmark victory for Hyde and now up to 12th position.
Stockport County 0...Hyde 2
Yet another landmark victory for Hyde and now up to 12th position.
andrew bell
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The non league system have Boxing day & New Years day's fixtures spot on, all local derby, unless Police advice against it. If that system was brought in I think this seasons fixtures would look something similar to this
Arsenal v Chelsea
Aston Villa v Stoke City
Everton v Wigan
Fulham v QPR
Manchester United v Newcastle
Norwich v West Ham
Reading v Tottenham
Sunderland v Manchester City
Swansea v Southampton
West Brom v Liverpool
I know some of these fixtures had actually happened yesterday but having the whole fixture list like that would be good for fans and players alike, not too much travelling time, and more local games in public holidays
Donny Dave
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Championship manager meery go round gathers pace ....
Henning Berg has been sacked by Blackburn after only 57 days and 10 games in charge.
The Venky's are absolute jokes IMO, and are turning the club into a complete laughing stock ....
Henning Berg has been sacked by Blackburn after only 57 days and 10 games in charge.
The Venky's are absolute jokes IMO, and are turning the club into a complete laughing stock ....
EM2
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If you're looking at all local derbies, why not have the Manchester, Liverpool, Tyne-Wear etc?
Everton v Liverpool
Manchester United v Manchester City
Newcastle v Sunderland
Aston Villa v West Bromwich Albion
Fulham v QPR
Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur
Southampton v Reading
West Ham United v Norwich City
Wigan Athletic v Stoke City
Swansea City v Chelsea
The biggest journey is Chelsea, so maybe swap them with Reading (quick scoot along the M4) and send Chelsea down the M3.
balne-wonderer
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Blackburn sack Henning berg
it's also confirmed that no action to be taken against fergie for his rant yesterday. wow, just wow. I actually feel sick at that. where is the consistency? got to be a wind up surely.
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no action to be taken. incredible. surely that means it's totally fine for any manager to publicly berate and humiliate officials during and after a match. the precedent has been set.
it's also confirmed that no action to be taken against fergie for his rant yesterday. wow, just wow. I actually feel sick at that. where is the consistency? got to be a wind up surely.
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no action to be taken. incredible. surely that means it's totally fine for any manager to publicly berate and humiliate officials during and after a match. the precedent has been set.
Xenophon PCDGS
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It seems to be a far more drastic clear-out, as also sacked are:-
Eric Black...Assistant Manager
Iain Brunskill...First team coach
Bobby Mimms...Goalkeeping coach.
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Mike Dean put nothing in his match report about it = FA won't investigate the issue further. Whether you agree with those rules or not, that's the situation so it's hardly preferential treatment, more like Ref felt that he dealt with the issue at the time so the FA can't take it further. Anyway, was very nice to get a winner at home whilst another Manchester team is playing at Sunderland, own medicine
And to those who say the title race is over at 7 points clear? Rubbish! Think we had that situation once or twice last year, later in the season - we all know how everything can change.
Evans' OG shouldn't have stood in my view, Newcastle player in an offside position, I'm confident Evans would have dealt with the ball just fine had he not have been there. As a result, Cisse can be seen as interfering with play which under normal circumstances is offside which would mean stop play and any goal not stand. Just like the Swansea goal last week, a goal scored against us that shouldn't have counted. (Foul on Van Persie in the Swansea game). Also should have had a penalty for the handball by Collocini, they have been given this season and defenders are fully aware of the risk they run with hands in that position, whether intentional or not.
Of course, this doesn't fit in with the conspiracy theory/ Fergie Association stuff does it? :roll:
balne-wonderer
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Mike Dean put nothing in his match report about it = FA won't investigate the issue further. Whether you agree with those rules or not, that's the situation so it's hardly preferential treatment, more like Ref felt that he dealt with the issue at the time so the FA can't take it further. Anyway, was very nice to get a winner at home whilst another Manchester team is playing at Sunderland, own medicine
And to those who say the title race is over at 7 points clear? Rubbish! Think we had that situation once or twice last year, later in the season - we all know how everything can change.
Evans' OG shouldn't have stood in my view, Newcastle player in an offside position, I'm confident Evans would have dealt with the ball just fine had he not have been there. As a result, Cisse can be seen as interfering with play which under normal circumstance is offside which would mean stop play and any goal not stand. Just like the Swansea goal last week, a goal scored against us that shouldn't have counted. (Foul on Van Persie in the Swansea game). Also should have had a penalty for the handball by Collocini, they have been given this season and defenders are fully aware of the risk they run with hands in that position, whether intentional or not.
Of course, this doesn't fit in with the conspiracy theory/ Fergie Association stuff does it? :roll:
wow. and people say I'm biased!
Johnuk123
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No other present day manager would have got away with 2 bullying rants in less than a week except Ferguson.
Everybody from referees to the Premiership/F.A. authorities is simply scared to confront him because he is a Sir and has won a few things.
His football record is superb but his personality is totally biased.
Everybody from referees to the Premiership/F.A. authorities is simply scared to confront him because he is a Sir and has won a few things.
His football record is superb but his personality is totally biased.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Biased...balne-wonderer...
hock:Now wherever did you get that impression ?..:cry:
balne-wonderer
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as a football fan I find todays events not only sinister but upsetting. but like I said, surely a precedent has been set now and every manager should be able to rant like fergie.
MidnightFlyer
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If only Blackburn had sacked Steve Kean after ten games 
Kevin McDonald, Billy Davies and Shebbi Singh are the favourites amongst bookies, whilst Hughes and Souness are preferred by the fans from various Facebook posts I've read
Kevin McDonald, Billy Davies and Shebbi Singh are the favourites amongst bookies, whilst Hughes and Souness are preferred by the fans from various Facebook posts I've read
hairyhandedfool
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However much you may or may not dislike the off-side rule (and I personally think it was much better when you had to have two opponents between you and their goal or be in your own half or have the opponents play the ball, with none of this active in play s**te), Cisse was not offside.
Also of note, Evans held Cisse preventing him from getting the ball (and thus interfering with play), therefore had it not been a goal for any reason, it should have been for a foul on Cisse (thus a penalty) and presumably a red card for Evans as the last man. As I see it, that is a let off for Man Utd, of course, had Evans not held Cisse and therefore not got to the ball before Cisse, it would have been offside and not a goal.
This is my view also, no goal then Evans was fouling Cisse
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If nothing in match report could that also mean he knew nothing of the event, my understanding is if its in his match report thats when the fa cant take action, but if he doesnt report it then fa can take action based on video evidence
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Reading to Swasea is 149 miles, southampton to swansea 153 miles, so eif looking at combined mileage Reading- chelsea and southampton to swansea would be the combined lowest mileage