Stagecoach West/South West/South Wales - Fleet News & Discussion

[overthewater]

Might be an issue finding an E400 with a Tacho...

Don't there have any? What about E300?

 

[richw]

Might be an issue finding an E400 with a Tacho...

Don't there have any? What about E300?

Stagecoach Yorkshire and also stagecoach in Scotland have on occasion used Enviro 300 and 400s on megabus work, so must be some in the country with tachos they could transfer in?

Edit: 19093 19094 19095 all have tachos from when the X64 needed them.

 

[221129]

Stagecoach Yorkshire and also stagecoach in Scotland have on occasion used Enviro 300 and 400s on megabus work, so must be some in the country with tachos they could transfer in?

Edit: 19093 19094 19095 all have tachos from when the X64 needed them.

Or just use the Megabus coaches they have got?

 

[Temple Meads]

To be honest it was a perfect storm of rail replacement on a Saturday, reasonable weather and the end of the £1 offer - those circumstances are never going to happen again, so I don't think full coaches are a serious concern for the time being.

Has anyone seen what loadings are like now it's full fare?

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

To be honest it was a perfect storm of rail replacement on a Saturday, reasonable weather and the end of the £1 offer - those circumstances are never going to happen again, so I don't think full coaches are a serious concern for the time being.

Very fair points. Things to be considered....

• The Falcon has 2 out of the 8 coaches VOR.
• They HAVE been using spare Megabus vehicles but again, they need to be able to cover those requirements.
• Stagecoach do move tacho vehicles around - hence why Gloucester gained one of Swindon's Gold e400s
• However, such moves are ones that can be foreseen; this doubtless caught Stagecoach by surprise; even with the £1 fare, the service has not been massively used so a full vehicle was beyond anyone's expectations
• The e400s from the X64 may well have been fitted with tachos - however, do we know if they're still calibrated? If the requirement is no longer there, Stagecoach may not have spent the money and especially on some rather ageing e400s

 

[henairs]

Noted that 19093/94/95 are back at Exeter again with two in use today.
19093 was on 1a whilst 19095 was on 5a. 19094 was spare.
In their place noted 15666 on one of the X64 diagrams.
Cheers Mike R

 

[DaveHarries]

Very fair points. Things to be considered....

• The Falcon has 2 out of the 8 coaches VOR.

Surprised they would have 2 off the road so soon. How come?

Dave

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Surprised they would have 2 off the road so soon. How come?

Dave

One (54319) got accident damage in yard whilst type training AFAIK. Then you had one that lost a glass door pane and one with a mechanical at Haldon - just the usual teething issues.

 

[iantherev]

Noted that 19093/94/95 are back at Exeter again with two in use today.
19093 was on 1a whilst 19095 was on 5a. 19094 was spare.
In their place noted 15666 on one of the X64 diagrams.
Cheers Mike R

19107 is also back at Exeter. In return 19569-72 (the ex Park & Ride vehicles) have gone to Torquay.

 

[Rapidash]

19107 is also back at Exeter. In return 19569-72 (the ex Park & Ride vehicles) have gone to Torquay.

Ah I was wondering why the 13 had been upgraded this morning! Great seats on em, shame for the 39 though, made the drudgery of going through Bovey Tracey comfortable. Though I did see an none P&R liveried MMC doing the duties on Friday.

 

[iantherev]

Ah I was wondering why the 13 had been upgraded this morning! Great seats on em, shame for the 39 though, made the drudgery of going through Bovey Tracey comfortable. Though I did see an none P&R liveried MMC doing the duties on Friday.

That particular vehicle (10456) is allocated to the 39 when not required for P&R duties in the same way as its corporate liveried predecessor was.

 

[LAIRA]

Rode out to Tavistock this morning going out on 10502 on the 1 and returning on 10497 on X1.

47088 was working the Town Service and 34607 was on the 87 to Bere Alston.

 

[83G/84D]

Rode out to Tavistock this morning going out on 10502 on the 1 and returning on 10497 on X1.

47088 was working the Town Service and 34607 was on the 87 to Bere Alston.

Thanks for that Laira - at least I know that 10502 is out and about. I too spent some time in Tavistock, on Saturday hoping to see 10502 as it has eluded me so far. I also need Plymouth Citybus Dart 205 which I had hoped to see but no joy.

 

[LAIRA]

Thanks for that Laira - at least I know that 10502 is out and about. I too spent some time in Tavistock, on Saturday hoping to see 10502 as it has eluded me so far. I also need Plymouth Citybus Dart 205 which I had hoped to see but no joy.

PCB 205 is withdrawn after a fire at Callington where the fire brigade did more damage than the fire. It is now donating its engine to 252 and I expect it will then be "not long for this world"

Sorry to bring you bad news

 

[DaveHarries]

Back to Stagecoach SouthWest. I notice that the new timetable for the 9/9A/X9, which replace the 4/4A/4B between Exeter and Honiton from 02-May-2016) is now on Traveline SouthWest.

Looks like quite a reasonable level of service.

HTIOI,
Dave

Edited following corrections stated in subsequent reply.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Back to Stagecoach SouthWest. I notice that the new timetable for the 9/9A/X9, which replace the 4/4A/4B between Exeter and Honiton from 02-May-2016) is now on Traveline SouthWest.

Looks like quite a reasonable level of service although, in comparison between the 4/4A/4B and the 9/9A/X9, I notice two things:

- no evening buses to / from Honiton: the last departures between Honiton and Exeter are 1805 Exeter to Honiton and 1957 Honiton to Exeter. The late evening service gives one bus per hour between Exmouth and Sidbury. Honiton residents do, however, have an hourly train service which is probably faster than a bus.

- no service to / from Cranbrook but Cranbrook now has a station so residents there have an alternative provision for getting to / from Exeter.

HTIOI,
Dave

I think you may have to check what the 9 is replacing, Dave

 

[DaveHarries]

I think you may have to check what the 9 is replacing, Dave

You're right. Just double-checked and I stand corrected. Post edited accordingly.

Dave

 

[iantherev]

Ex Stagecoach West Belle 53611 has moved to Plymouth as a Falcon spare and is currently being repainted.
In other news, Tridents 17702/3/5-8 are due to move to Fife.

 

[lodekkafs]

17058 left Plymouth on Good Friday and is now at Chesterfield to replace sister (also ex Devon) 17052, which was withdrawn following a serious accident.

 

[henairs]

Hi,
See on Stagecoach South West Flickr site that 19065/19093/94/95 have moved to Barnstaple from Exeter.
Also a photo of 17053 on that site which suggests this Chard based Trident has been withdrawn recently (end of colledge term this Easter)
Also noted 17735/736 at Exeter last Saturday so wondered if these are moving on or just down for service while colledge holiday is on.
Cheers, MikeR

 

[thameslink2000]

Hi,
See on Stagecoach South West Flickr site that 19065/19093/94/95 have moved to Barnstaple from Exeter.
Also a photo of 17053 on that site which suggests this Chard based Trident has been withdrawn recently (end of colledge term this Easter)
Also noted 17735/736 at Exeter last Saturday so wondered if these are moving on or just down for service while colledge holiday is on.
Cheers, MikeR

17736 has been noted working out of Exmouth depot last couple of days. It worked the 'normal bus' diagram 1050 from Exeter on Stagecoach Gold 57, and later in the afternoon 58 1400 from Budleigh Salterton yesterday. Today observed on the 58 this afternoon passing Lympstone.

 

[DaveHarries]

A number of items for Stagecoach Devon's operations appeared in the VOSA Bus Service registrations for 04th April. All are given as wef 29-May-2016:

Revised:
RT = Route Change, TT = Timetable Change
3 Plymouth - Kingsbridge (TT)
3 Kingsbridge - Dartmouth (TT)
90 Dartmouth - Townstal (RT, TT)
X46 Exeter - Paignton (TT)

HTIOI,
Dave

 

[Rapidash]

I just noticed on Plymouthian Transit that the 11 and 13 have been cancelled?! Presumably the next batch will have new timetables? If not, I'll be hiking to bloomin' Labrador Bay!

Torbay Council mucking around with the 1 way systems into Torquay, so plenty of route changes to be had there....

 

[83G/84D]

Ex Stagecoach West Belle 53611 has moved to Plymouth as a Falcon spare and is currently being repainted.
In other news, Tridents 17702/3/5-8 are due to move to Fife.

53611 seen in Plymouth earlier this week in Falcon colours.

 

[Temple Meads]

53611 seen in Plymouth earlier this week in Falcon colours.

I don't suppose you got a picture? Or indeed anyone else?

 

[83G/84D]

I don't suppose you got a picture? Or indeed anyone else?

No sorry I was driving at the time.

 

[Rapidash]

Any idea if some of those newly ordered buses will be headed westwards? The last few Tridents in Torbay/ Exeter are probably up for replacement by new builds or cascades, right?

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Any idea if some of those newly ordered buses will be headed westwards? The last few Tridents in Torbay/ Exeter are probably up for replacement by new builds or cascades, right?

Don't be greedy!! Devon (albeit Exeter and Plymouth) have done very well recently

 

[LAIRA]

Rumored some new deckers for the 1 in Exeter are due this year.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Rumored some new deckers for the 1 in Exeter are due this year.

In all seriousness, I did think the e400s that I experienced on the 1 when I visited in Feb (2006 ex Manc ones?) did seem a bit tired etc.