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Theresa May calls General Election on 8th June.

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Labour on 23 in polls which was the same as 1983 when the Tories won a 144 seat majority.
 
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Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. This is clearly being done to try and get Brexit through on her terms and limit the influence of any other political party.

Not a stupid thing to do on her part.

Maybe not stupid, but I see it as being slightly risky, both for her and the country -- simply due to the risk of higher than normal levels of tactical voting. We don't know if that will happen, but I think there's a risk it might.
 

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simply due to the risk of higher than normal levels of tactical voting. We don't know if that will happen, but I think there's a risk it might.

Certainly my friends are already talking about it, even some who swore never to vote Lib Dem again (I live in the South West, and down here the Tories took a fair few seats from the Lib Dems in 2015 that shouldn't be that hard to reverse the swing). But that is just among a group of politically savvy 20 somethings. I can't see the same being the case across the entire spectrum of society.
 

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Certainly my friends are already talking about it, even some who swore never to vote Lib Dem again (I live in the South West, and down here the Tories took a fair few seats from the Lib Dems in 2015 that shouldn't be that hard to reverse the swing). But that is just among a group of politically savvy 20 somethings. I can't see the same being the case across the entire spectrum of society.

The whole point of commissioning a referendum is/was to take the issue away from party politics. This is where things *may* get silly, time will tell.

As for Labour, barring something completely unexpected, it's obvious Corbyn will be out of his misery by 9th June. The question is who might replace him. As I see it there's no one obvious to take over.
 

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The whole point of commissioning a referendum is/was to take the issue away from party politics. This is where things *may* get silly, time will tell.

As for Labour, barring something completely unexpected, it's obvious Corbyn will be out of his misery by 9th June. The question is who might replace him. As I see it there's no one obvious to take over.

Hillary Benn.

All I can think of.
 

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It's easy to say at first that this will be a landslide for the Conservatives. But were the majority of the party not betting on a landslide Remain vote?
 

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It's easy to say at first that this will be a landslide for the Conservatives. But were the majority of the party not betting on a landslide Remain vote?

Well I think there will be a lot of tactical voting in this election, the LD's may do well in Tory Lib Dem marginals, I think UKIP are largely finished with Nuttall as leader, SNP may loose a few seats but will still be the main force in Scotland, and many moderate like myself will simply not vote for Corbyn and accept May as the least worst option. So if you think that Corbyn is going to get an incredible Trump style victory it aint going to happen, and if it does I will be emigrating.
 

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[.....] through to an announcement that she will be Harry Redknapp's assistant at Birmingham. :lol:
Steve Cotterill (ex. Bristol City manager) has that role.

As for the election? Well one friend of mine has said that "UKIP have no chance (Farage didn't want to know in the end & Nuttall's Cred went down the pan over Hillsborough) - It will certainly mean the end for Corbyn & Sturgeon - the whole country is likely to be blue when this all finishes sadly". But that is his opinion, not mine.

For my part I won't be voting for Labour (because I suspect that they have the unions in the party pocket and they would hold power to a certain degree, and also that I wouldn't trust Jeremy Corbyn as far as I could throw him), UKIP or the BNP (because I don't agree with the policies of either of those two). That leaves Greens, Lib Dems or Tories. If Labour loose this election I would possibly also expect Corbyn to resign.

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Well I think there will be a lot of tactical voting in this election, the LD's may do well in Tory Lib Dem marginals, I think UKIP are largely finished with Nuttall as leader, SNP may loose a few seats but will still be the main force in Scotland, and many moderate like myself will simply not vote for Corbyn and accept May as the least worst option. So if you think that Corbyn is going to get an incredible Trump style victory it aint going to happen, and if it does I will be emigrating.

With all honestly I can say I'm glad UKIP are finished (he actually visited my college when he tried to run for MP in my home constituency at the last GE), but I do fear that we'll carry on like before as soon as this farce blows over.
 

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This news doesnt surprise me and its a cute political move to bury Labour.

To get the Fixed Term Parliamentary Act repealed 66% of MP`s have to vote to repeal it in a vote tomorrow

Now what does Corbyn and the Labour Party do ? do they

1) Impose a 3 line whip to vote against it or

2) Impose a 3 line whip to vote for it or

3) Make it a free vote

especially as Corbyn has previously said he wants such a vote.

Here in sunny Southport, I will be voting Lib Dem to keep the Tories out , as I have an intense political dislike for the Tories.

I cant wait for 7 weeks of media barrage regarding this :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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To get the Fixed Term Parliamentary Act repealed 66% of MP's have to vote to repeal it in a vote tomorrow

It won't be repealed. The act simply requires a two-thirds majority vote in favour of a motion to call an early election. No need to repeal it at all.
 

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I see mention of one of the parties saying they will overturn Brexit - with Article 50 invoked, is this actually an option?
 

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Well I think there will be a lot of tactical voting in this election

Agreed. The extent of my tactical voting however is deciding if I want to Lib Dem in Mitcham and Morden, or in Broxtowe (the joys of being a student) - for which I'm going to wait and see how the situation develops before sending in a postal vote application.
 

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Whoopee! another opportunity to deliver a humiliating upset to the political establishment and pundits at the ballot box! So soon after the last!
 

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Has May called this General Election because she knows the police investigation into Tory expenses at the last election was going to lead to prosecutions and reruns of marginal seats that she would be at risk of losing in by-elections?

With a massive majority on re-election she also avoids being pressurised by the various pro/anti globalisation factions in her own party.

Hopefully I stand a reasonable chance of losing my UKIP supporting Labour MP!
 

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I see mention of one of the parties saying they will overturn Brexit - with Article 50 invoked, is this actually an option?

Yes of course, provided that the EU agree, (to which they probably would). They then would know that this leave nonsense would go away for at least a decade, - both the UK and probably in several other member countries where there has bean a right wing post truth surge.
 

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If people want to overturn Brexit, it seems a vote for the LibDems is the only option. Those who voted out will have split votes between Labour, Tory and UKIP.

Of course I know it isn't quite so simple. Early signs on social media do show a lot if people making the same assumption, but who knows if they'd actually do it.
 

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If people want to overturn Brexit, it seems a vote for the LibDems is the only option. Those who voted out will have split votes between Labour, Tory and UKIP.

The burning question is, for which party other than the Tories are votes going to account to anything for?
 

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Now we will ser how wrong those msm Zionist capitalist running dog polls are as Jeremy Corbyn roars into no.10


Or something
 

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But you could always vote for the good old Monster Raving Loony party!
Only if they bother to put up a candidate in your area.

Personally I want a hung parliament or the Conservatives to have at least a small majority than they have no.

I find it heard to see that happening though.

I'm surprised Labour are supporting the dissolving as they are in disarray. Maybe voting no would be political suicide.
 

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The burning question is, for which party other than the Tories are votes going to account to anything for?
That's the reason May is convinced this is a good idea. The only hope is that the mass division in this country since last year will make people do something radical.

I think that the referendum in some ways took away all the focus from normal politics, as if the EU is the only issue that anyone cares about.

I wonder if the election will be seen as a second referendum for many.
 
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