Some people dont care about the view as they are staring at a screenIf you've got a glossy laptop screen, they can be handy!
Some people dont care about the view as they are staring at a screenIf you've got a glossy laptop screen, they can be handy!
How are they coping in the snow if there's any out?
I can not speak for the 800s but it was certainly a rule for the HSTs which remained even though the proposed risk was averted. It could well be a legacy rule as you suggest. Generally, with long distance high speed multiple unit trains there is little need for a Guard/Train Manager to 'back cab' anyway as there is specific accommodation provided elsewhere. If GW have banned any crew other than Travelling Fitters from middle/rear cabs on 800s then it could also be to try to prevent accidental brake applications from someone brushing up against a control in the cab in error.Thanks. So it's a legacy rule rather than a specific quirk of the 800s ?
The poor winter weather is highlighting some vulnerabilities with the units -
The Horns are very prone to packing with snow and freezing, which then means 20mph forward to next suitable location to clear the line. Also the rate of door faults has increased somewhat; although the same could be said of majority of power door trains in these conditions.
The poor winter weather is highlighting some vulnerabilities with the units -
The Horns are very prone to packing with snow and freezing, which then means 20mph forward to next suitable location to clear the line.
Indeed they are - most of the time they still use whistles. I know the 0 Series Shinkansen was fitted with them; less sure about newer models though.I believe Japan is prone to regular snow so it's odd that the horns have this issue. Are UK horns very different from those used in Japan?
Here is some video shot by my mate of 800304/T40 on the Test Track at Aycliffe this afternoon.
I can not speak for the 800s but it was certainly a rule for the HSTs which remained even though the proposed risk was averted. It could well be a legacy rule as you suggest. Generally, with long distance high speed multiple unit trains there is little need for a Guard/Train Manager to 'back cab' anyway as there is specific accommodation provided elsewhere. If GW have banned any crew other than Travelling Fitters from middle/rear cabs on 800s then it could also be to try to prevent accidental brake applications from someone brushing up against a control in the cab in error.
Didn't sound particularly quiet or healthy tbh as it went past.
Agreed I didn't hear anything untoward either. It's just a DMU sounding, unsurprisingly, like a DMUSounded perfectly fine and normal. Driver is applying power every few seconds, as for noise, the video is recorded on a small camera, so noise is not a true representation. This is in no way a dig at the video
Correct, those are trailer vehicles, no motors or engines fittedIs anyone able to explain why two of the vehicles have internal frame bogies whereas the rest are external? This only seems to be on the 9-cars. Are these trailer vehicles without any engines or anything?
The 800/3s are what the 801/0s (destined for GWR) were converted into, after the GWEP ballooned into more of a farce than it already was.Excuse my slightly embarasing ignorance, but that veriety of 800 is the 8003xx??
Excuse my slightly embarasing ignorance, but that veriety of 800 is the 8003xx??
Correct, those are trailer vehicles, no motors or engines fitted
Yes, and also John Charles.Sorry if this has already been covered but various GWR social media is saying that 800 009 has been named Sir Gareth Edwards.
Yes, and also John Charles.
There is an image of the commerative coins featuring both people here (publicly viewable):
https://www.facebook.com/gwruk/phot...45127331805/10155169650221806/?type=3&theater
Definitely - but the Class 91's performance isn't something to sniff at. The don't take off like a rocket like the 387s/800s do (when the driver wants to/can) but they get up to speed deceptively quickly. I've gone over Colton Junction south from a standing start at York at over 110mph in a mk4/91 many a time - a distance of about 5 1/2 miles. An HST is a little more leisurely, crossing just over 100mph from personal experience. I think the factoid about the HST is that it takes 11 miles to reach 125? 5.5 miles for the first 100, and 5.5 for the last 25.....
Don't know about distance but BR documentation says 0-100 in 3 mins 15 secs and 100-125 in a further 4 mins or 7.25 mins 0-125 mph overall. That's for a 2+7 HST. A Class 91+9 Mk4+DVT IC225 takes 5 mins 15 to reach 125 from a stand.
As an aside the Class 800 IEPs on Diesel mode are incapable of attaining 125 mph on level track, they balance at about 118 mph.
If I remember my school physics correctly and you make a gross over-simplification and assume linear acceleration that equates to about 2.7 miles for 0-100 and 7.5 miles for 100-125. 10.2 miles altogether, not far off the 11 miles previously quoted.
As an aside the Class 800 IEPs on Diesel mode are incapable of attaining 125 mph on level track, they balance at about 118 mph.
Interesting to see how a Class 800 compares. Of course coming out of Paddington these days you are limited in speed for longer than in pre-Southall days (?) until the 125 limit comes into force and full power starts don't really happen much, if at all these days either.
The 800s (and 387s) on Electric can reach 100 before the 125mph board at Acton - something neither HSTs nor 180s could attain even before the speed limits were reduced.
Sorry if this has already been covered but various GWR social media is saying that 800 009 has been named Sir Gareth Edwards.
Yes here's a clip on the BBC news page about it - it also shows shots of the new First Class interior, with GWR green headrests. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-wales-43318347/new-train-named-after-gareth-edwards-and-john-charlesYes, and also John Charles.
There is an image of the commerative coins featuring both people here (publicly viewable):
https://www.facebook.com/gwruk/phot...45127331805/10155169650221806/?type=3&theater
Im not so sure that the Diesel running is fully understood. Obviously a 800 running on Diesel will be out accelerated by an HST but i think that will only be so where there are high speed limits. I can see a situation where running speeds are relatively low where the 800s modern electric traction package and distribution will be able to put more power out at the wheels than a HST resulting in a faster journey time. I can certainly see that being so at places like the Devon Banks and Main line in Cornwall, and I can well imagine that overall an 800 will be as good as or better than an HST overall on the through journey between Paddington and PenzanceThey are undoubtedly better on electric mode, it just that with so much Diesel running now, it seems they will struggle to maintain schedules - this has of course been discussed at length anyway.
It will be interesting to see how the Electric only IEPs, which will be lighter I assume, will fair.
As an aside the Class 800 IEPs on Diesel mode are incapable of attaining 125 mph on level track, they balance at about 118 mph.