Why would they take half the toilets out if they aren't going to reuse the space?
Would make sense. The HSTs have an over provision of toilets for what is now regional stockI'm guessing it'll be retention tank related
What I mean by over provision is that you wouldn't expect more than two toilets per four coach regional unit, for that is what these HSTs are nowIt is because there is only space for one retention tank per coach I believe. This 4 car set has 3 toilets. 1 has been locked out of use having run out of water, and another has run out of toilet paper and hand towels. So I would hardly describe them as having an over provision of toilets. The toilets themselves have been redesigned, the sliding door pocket clearly encroaching on the original space. The new design is rather pokey to say the least.
I would describe that as operational difficulties rather than anything over or under provison of toilets onboardBut this train has 3, and after 13 hours in service, 2 are unusable. I would describe that as an underprovision, not an overprovision.
It's certainly an 'operational difficulty' if you need the loo and all the bogs are out of order!I would describe that as operational difficulties rather than anything over or under provison of toilets onboard
Try the trains I usually travel on. 10 coaches, four toilets often all locked out of use and a potential journey time of 80 minutes. But that's not an under provision. That's a maintenence issue.But this train has 3, and after 13 hours in service, 2 are unusable. I would describe that as an underprovision, not an overprovision.
Correct. One end of a Mark 3 has the air tanks and brake equipment under it, the other end has an empty space.It is because there is only space for one retention tank per coach I believe.
Its a pity Northern cant get a few of these for the Cumbrian coast line.They would be ideal.
Confirmation today in staff notices that power cars are to be named after Castles. No details yet.
'Old Oak Common 2018 Castle'Replacing the existing names presumably? Seems a bit odd though as 43093 only gained it's current name recently
Well quite. But only in the ways that they are also overkill right where they are.Complete overkill.
Isn't it interesting that it's claimed that in Cornwall these are the answer for local stopping services, you claim that in Northern England they are the answer for regional express services and in Scotland they are claimed to be the answer for intercity services? Despite being basically the same train? Does this not suggest that what they are actually really suitable for is probably... nothing.If they were going to get some they would be better on regional express services
I have to say I am very surprised there is room for the ridiculous door pocket, the toilet and the corridor there. I'm also disappointed that the rubbish pressure pad doors are still there.The new design is rather pokey to say the least.
Well that lasted long!Set not out today. Door failure/Wabtec staff gone home !
Why is the door pocket "ridiculous"? Any better ideas?I have to say I am very surprised there is room for the ridiculous door pocket, the toilet and the corridor there. I'm also disappointed that the rubbish pressure pad doors are still there.
Absolutely insane, it was the fastest I've ever been out of Exeter St Davids. We were rocketing along by Exeter St Thomas.How is the acceleration with the reduced train length?
Chiltern plug doors.Why is the door pocket "ridiculous"? Any better ideas?
Plug doors on mark 3s are difficult and expensive to do. That is why Wabtec have come up with the sliding door mod.Chiltern plug doors.
EDIT: Also, what's the point of pocket doors on an EXPRESS passenger train when they were designed to speed up boarding on STOPPING trains. IMO it looks daft and out of place. Plug doors also keep the lines clean rather than the break-up of them on the Super Hitachi Intercity Trains.
Chiltern plug doors.
Isn't it interesting that it's claimed that in Cornwall these are the answer for local stopping services, you claim that in Northern England they are the answer for regional express services and in Scotland they are claimed to be the answer for intercity services? Despite being basically the same train? Does this not suggest that what they are actually really suitable for is probably... nothing.