Virgin Trains (VTWC) new livery being introduced

[Bletchleyite]

I always seem to be in a very small minority, but I think the Pendolinos and Voyagers have aged remarkably well. If you did a random survey asking people how old they are I bet few would say nearly 20 years. They still look and feel modern.

I would agree. They really don't look 16 ish years old, inside or out.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Will the rest get the bands?
Why the change?

Because it looks utterly awful without them? I've noticed some with red Virgin door window stickers which also improves it.

 

[mullac30]

It would be nice to see the full flowing silk livery on a 390, but it seems unlikely now that the DFT is moving to permanent brands.

 

[JakeMurphy]

390114 out - 122 has gone in

 

[LOL The Irony]

Indeed , and the Voyagers , must be coming up for one.

I was told September.

 

[LOL The Irony]

Well, as my favourite TOC is getting a makeover, I owe it to Virgin Trains to create a list.


Virgin Trains
Livery status

Voyagers
221101 Virgin Silver and Red
221102 Virgin Silver and Red
221103 Virgin Silver and Red
221104 Virgin Silver and Red
221105 Virgin Silver and Red
221106 Virgin Silver and Red
221107 Virgin Silver and Red
221108 Virgin Silver and Red
221109 Virgin Silver and Red
221110 Virgin Silver and Red
221111 Virgin Silver and Red
221112 Virgin Silver and Red
221113 Virgin Silver and Red
221114 Virgin Silver and Red
221115 Virgin Silver and Red
221116 Virgin Silver and Red
221117 Virgin Silver and Red
221118 Virgin Silver and Red
221142 Virgin Silver and Red
221143 Virgin Silver and Red

Pendolinos
390001 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390002 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390005 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390006 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390008 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390009 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390010 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390011 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390013 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390016 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390020 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390039 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390040 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390042 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390043 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390044 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390045 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390046 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390047 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390049 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390050 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390103 Virgin Silver and Red
390104 Virgin Silver and Red
390107 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390112 Virgin Silver and Red
390114 Virgin “Flowing Silk”
390115 Virgin Silver and Red
390117 Virgin Silver and Red
390118 Virgin Silver and Red
390119 Virgin Silver and Red
390121 Virgin Silver and Red
390122 Virgin Silver and Red
390123 Virgin Silver and Red
390124 Virgin Silver and Red
390125 Virgin Silver and Red
390126 Virgin Silver and Red
390127 Virgin Silver and Red
390128 Virgin Silver and Red
390129 Virgin Silver and Red
390130 Virgin Silver and Red
390131 Virgin Silver and Red
390132 Virgin Silver and Red
390134 Virgin Silver and Red
390135 Virgin Silver and Red
390136 Virgin Silver and Red
390137 Virgin Silver and Red
390138 Virgin Silver and Red
390141 Virgin Silver and Red
390148 Virgin Silver and Red
390151 Virgin Silver and Red
390152 Virgin Silver and Red
390153 Virgin Silver and Red

You're missing 154-157.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Ahh how embarrassing. Will amend

 

[E_Reeves]

Saw 107 with window bands today. Very smart!

 

[p.d87]

Window bands will now be the norm when leaving widnes. Internal comms confirm.

 

[LOL The Irony]

Window bands will now be the norm when leaving widnes. Internal comms confirm.

Same with the Voyagers?

 

[superalbs]

Same with the Voyagers?

Who said Voyagers are being done?

 

[LOL The Irony]

Who said Voyagers are being done?

I was told by a reputable source.

 

[superalbs]

I was told by a reputable source.

Interesting. Care to share, or is that not for our eyes? (Understandable of course.)

 

[LOL The Irony]

Interesting. Care to share, or is that not for our eyes? (Understandable of course.)

I'd rather keep it the latter.

 

[superalbs]

I'd rather keep it the latter.

Fair enough. Will certainly be interesting to see, especially how they manage to cram the silk pattern into the comparatively smaller space available at the front of the Voyagers lol!

 

[LOL The Irony]

Fair enough. Will certainly be interesting to see, especially how they manage to cram the silk pattern into the comparatively smaller space available at the front of the Voyagers lol!

I can imagine the Virgin logo being below the windows.

 

[E_Reeves]

When are voyagers due to be done? After pendos presumably?

 

[LOL The Irony]

When are voyagers due to be done? After pendos presumably?

I was told September so should start soon.

 

[E_Reeves]

I was told September so should start soon.

Oh okay. Exciting to see how they turn out!

 

[driver_m]

Don't know who your source is @LOL The Irony but we haven't heard anything at all regarding the voyagers, other than they're needing some engine and tilt TLC due to failures over the hot summer, which has prevented some shop mods/repairs happening a bit quicker. Nothing at all regarding repaints.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Don't know who your source is @LOL The Irony but we haven't heard anything at all regarding the voyagers, other than they're needing some engine and tilt TLC due to failures over the hot summer, which has prevented some shop mods/repairs happening a bit quicker. Nothing at all regarding repaints.

I know the source and can confirm it is something that knows what it’s talking about.

 

[E_Reeves]

Found these posts earlier in the thread

When will the Super Voyagers be repainted?

Owned by different ROSCO so nothing to do with the Pendolino refresh.

 

[Agent_Squash]

Found these posts earlier in the thread

Doesn't mean it isn't going to happen, though.

 

[DanNCL]

I personally think that if the voyagers are getting the new livery, they're much more likely to be vinyled rather than repainted. It's incredibly unlikely that the voyagers will be getting a repaint as part of this relivery.

 

[59CosG95]

I personally think that if the voyagers are getting the new livery, they're much more likely to be vinyled rather than repainted. It's incredibly unlikely that the voyagers will be getting a repaint as part of this relivery.

The repaint is almost certain; the Pendolino fleet was mandated to have one (for corrosion protection).

 

[DanNCL]

The repaint is almost certain; the Pendolino fleet was mandated to have one (for corrosion protection).

I probably should have worded it differently - the voyagers are unlikely to be part of the same repaint program as the pendolinos are. If they're getting repainted it's unlikely to be at Widnes, and if the first one is being reliveried this month it makes me think it's much more likely to be a vinyl wrap rather than a repaint at first.

 

[JakeMurphy]

There has been some changes to the voyagers. 221101 no longer has the nameplate Louis Bleriot and 221114 now has the name "Royal Air Force Centenary 1918-2018" which is on a sticker.

 

[E_Reeves]

There has been some changes to the voyagers. 221101 no longer has the nameplate Louis Bleriot and 221114 now has the name "Royal Air Force Centenary 1918-2018" which is on a sticker.

A sticker like the pendo nameplates...?

 

[Defiance149]

A sticker like the pendo nameplates...?

Yes, its a vinyl. Named at Holyhead on 22/8. Incorporates the crest of RAF Valley at one end.

 

[Andy25]

I was told September so should start soon.

Voyagers were tendered for Widnes for a protype re-paint but not won. Not sure when the prototype will actually be done, I think Bombardier may have won it.

Full Fleet still to be tendered.