As previously mentioned it depends on what category the SPAD was classed as. As for your file, I'm sure it stays on there for life however it will only be held against you for 10 years.Hi
As the title says, how bad is it to have a SPAD on your record? i.e how long does it stay on your record, does it affect future employment?
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Wasn't this why the Signal Passed At Red (SPAR) term was created? IIRC its used for SPADs which are found to not be the fault of the driver, due to some companies just blindly looking at the number of SPADs rather than the causes?As previously mentioned it depends on what category the SPAD was classed as. As for your file, I'm sure it stays on there for life however it will only be held against you for 10 years.
Wasn't this why the Signal Passed At Red (SPAR) term was created? IIRC its used for SPADs which are found to not be the fault of the driver, due to some companies just blindly looking at the number of SPADs rather than the causes?
I didn't differentiate between Spad and spar , as anyone asking if a Spad is serious , probably isn't a driver and it was easier just to say - depends on the type. For the layman - Spad is signal passed at danger. Spar is signal passed at red and is less serious. Spar could be sliding through or signal reverting , or even a train with failed brakes that is unable to stop.
Whlst this wasnt intended as a post for rules and regulations. Can anybody clarfiy how SPADs happen? I thought you would get yellow signals before hand to alert the driver to the probabilty of a red. I appreciate traction and train failures can result in a SPAD, but do drivers ever miss yellows and then red signals?
Whlst this wasnt intended as a post for rules and regulations. Can anybody clarfiy how SPADs happen? I thought you would get yellow signals before hand to alert the driver to the probabilty of a red. I appreciate traction and train failures can result in a SPAD, but do drivers ever miss yellows and then red signals?
Whlst this wasnt intended as a post for rules and regulations. Can anybody clarfiy how SPADs happen? I thought you would get yellow signals before hand to alert the driver to the probabilty of a red. I appreciate traction and train failures can result in a SPAD, but do drivers ever miss yellows and then red signals?
Or in the case of a recent incident at Huddersfield when a driver coupled to another unit and then did the 'pull test' and had a SPAD. The same platform was also occupied by an unrelated unit.By "sliding through" I presume you are talking about adhesion problems....that and a train with failed brakes would still be classified as a SPAD....tho thats not to say the driver will necessarily be at fault in those situations.
I didn't differentiate between Spad and spar , as anyone asking if a Spad is serious , probably isn't a driver and it was easier just to say - depends on the type. For the layman - Spad is signal passed at danger. Spar is signal passed at red and is less serious. Spar could be sliding through or signal reverting , or even a train with failed brakes that is unable to stop.
I am a driver
I was asking how serious it is on your record for future employment
I haven't suggested that it's not a bad thing
Hi everyone! I have another question (same topic), i was wondering if their would be a fail safe to stop the train in a scenario where the driver hadn’t noticed he had gone through a red for whatever reason? (Sorry OP if I have gone off track will remove if you wish)
I was asking how serious it is on your record for future employment
I haven't suggested that it's not a bad thing
Soyspad , this is start on yellow.
Never heard that phrase before! Understand your given explanation but never heard it referred to as such.
Maybe it's just what my toc call it.
I didn't hear about that, was that TPE? There was an incident a few years ago though when a driver was booked to attach two units together at Huddersfield on platform 4, didn't follow the correct procedure and ended up colliding with a third unit that had arrived in the east end of the platform.Or in the case of a recent incident at Huddersfield when a driver coupled to another unit and then did the 'pull test' and had a SPAD. The same platform was also occupied by an unrelated unit.
Hi everyone! I have another question (same topic), i was wondering if their would be a fail safe to stop the train in a scenario where the driver hadn’t noticed he had gone through a red for whatever reason? (Sorry OP if I have gone off track will remove if you wish)