Group Bourdon Tool

[Twotwo]

hello - new to all this so don't shoot me if what I am asking is super obvious. I have my assessment with Southeastern in a few weeks and have been informed I will be expected to sit Group Bourdon, TEA-Occ and Trainability for Rules and Procedures only therefore am only concentrating on practicing those tests therefore can someone point me in the right direction where I can get further practice material on those three - I would rather do paper tests then the computer ones as have been told pencil paper is how it will be done on the day. I have completed all what they sent me in the practice document - just wondering if there is an easy link to print some additional pages off.

Thanks!

https://traineetraindriverinfo.com/...merce_uploads/2013/12/Mock-Assesment-Copy.pdf

 

[GollyDolly]

https://traineetraindriverinfo.com/...merce_uploads/2013/12/Mock-Assesment-Copy.pdf

priceless - thanks loads...

 

[MarieBraz]

hello - new to all this so don't shoot me if what I am asking is super obvious. I have my assessment with Southeastern in a few weeks and have been informed I will be expected to sit Group Bourdon, TEA-Occ and Trainability for Rules and Procedures only therefore am only concentrating on practicing those tests therefore can someone point me in the right direction where I can get further practice material on those three - I would rather do paper tests then the computer ones as have been told pencil paper is how it will be done on the day. I have completed all what they sent me in the practice document - just wondering if there is an easy link to print some additional pages off.

Thanks!

Hi, I am doing my assessment at the end of the month for Southeastern and am down for the same 3 tests as you are. I don't know why we haven't been invited to do all the tests on the same day?
Anyway good luck to you.
Marie

 

[GollyDolly]

Hi, I am doing my assessment at the end of the month for Southeastern and am down for the same 3 tests as you are. I don't know why we haven't been invited to do all the tests on the same day?
Anyway good luck to you.
Marie

Hello! I spoke with the recruitment team this morning and they said that it's just these three tests on the day and should be there for about 2 hours, if successful then will be invited back again at a later date. Good luck!

 

[Driver2B]

Hi, I am doing my assessment at the end of the month for Southeastern and am down for the same 3 tests as you are. I don't know why we haven't been invited to do all the tests on the same day?
Anyway good luck to you.
Marie

There tend to be two models which TOCs do:

Either:
* all assessments except MMI on one day and then MMI seperately.
Or:
* Assessments on two days (as with you), the second will include the MMI.

Therefore, always two days overall (to my knowledge) but just depends how they split it.

I did all assessments except MMI on one day and MMI on another - it helped me prepare seperately for the MMI.

Anyway, good luck with your assessments!

 

[Arthurjack]

Hi all. I’ve been getting around 1300 cells over the ten minutes. With around 3-4 omissions with none marked in error. Around 10-10.5 lines down per sheet. Am I in the right area to pass? Waiting for GA to open recruitment

 

[MarieBraz]

There tend to be two models which TOCs do:

Either:
* all assessments except MMI on one day and then MMI seperately.
Or:
* Assessments on two days (as with you), the second will include the MMI.

Therefore, always two days overall (to my knowledge) but just depends how they split it.

I did all assessments except MMI on one day and MMI on another - it helped me prepare seperately for the MMI.

Anyway, good luck with your assessments!

Thank you.

 

[martin2345uk]

Hi all. I’ve been getting around 1300 cells over the ten minutes. With around 3-4 omissions with none marked in error. Around 10-10.5 lines down per sheet. Am I in the right area to pass? Waiting for GA to open recruitment

Slow down until your omissions are down to zero. Also use the GB tool to print sheets out and do it on paper for a more realistic practice

 

[Driver2B]

Hi all. I’ve been getting around 1300 cells over the ten minutes. With around 3-4 omissions with none marked in error. Around 10-10.5 lines down per sheet. Am I in the right area to pass? Waiting for GA to open recruitment

10-10.5 lines with 3-4 omissions over the five sheets is plenty good enough for national standards! Can't comment on enhanced so always worth trying to improve further if you have an enhanced assessment coming up (I don't know if GA are standard or enhanced).

 

[Driver2B]

Thank you.

You're welcome!

 

[Arthurjack]

10-10.5 lines with 3-4 omissions over the five sheets is plenty good enough for national standards! Can't comment on enhanced so always worth trying to improve further if you have an enhanced assessment coming up (I don't know if GA are standard or enhanced).

thank you both for your advice. just swatting up on the various tests and SJTS. Not sure when GA will open recruitment but I hope its soon

 

[anca]

Hi
I'm new here and new to the world of railway. I've been invited to take trainee train driver assesment, I've ordered some books online and used up the practice material I have been sent, but I'm a looking to find some more practice sheets for the Group bourdon test until my material arrives.I have found some links here, but they are not working .
Does anyone have any kind of advice, please?
Anything is welcomed, except maybe "just quit"

 

[martin2345uk]

The tool at the start of this thread should work, what’s the issue with it..?

 

[anca]

The tool at the start of this thread should work, what’s the issue with it..?

Hi,
the tool won't download/open. I did find it though online and I bought 10 practice tests/5 pages each

 

[mexman]

This might be me being a bit dumb here but on the GB test, should it tell you how many dots you are supposed to be crossing out?
Cant seem to find it, when I start it, just says hit space to start, cant see where it says find xx amount of dots??

 

[Driver2B]

This might be me being a bit dumb here but on the GB test, should it tell you how many dots you are supposed to be crossing out?
Cant seem to find it, when I start it, just says hit space to start, cant see where it says find xx amount of dots??

It doesn't tell you! It expects you to know!


You cross out groups of 4!
You're one of us now!

 

[mexman]

It doesn't tell you! It expects you to know!


You cross out groups of 4!
You're one of us now!

Ha ha cheers for that.

 

[Peeler]

Hi
I'm new here and new to the world of railway. I've been invited to take trainee train driver assesment, I've ordered some books online and used up the practice material I have been sent, but I'm a looking to find some more practice sheets for the Group bourdon test until my material arrives.I have found some links here, but they are not working .
Does anyone have any kind of advice, please?
Anything is welcomed, except maybe "just quit"

Hi. I bought the DOTs test booklet for about £10 which I found useful....

 

[Arthurjack]

Good luck to all. In practice I’m getting 1300 cells over the ten minutes. Between 10 - 10.5 rows per sheet. Zero errors or omissions. On the paper version. Hopefully that will be good enough

 

[sandyravage]

Been practising this for a week now and on average I seem to be getting 8 to nine lines with no errors and 1 omission. Is this good enough?

 

[Peeler]

Been practising this for a week now and on average I seem to be getting 8 to nine lines with no errors and 1 omission. Is this good enough?

Very likely to be! I’ve heard very different things about the secrets of how it’s scored. I think the physiological aspect of it is that the best scores go to those who get better as the test goes on as you show you can hold your concentration & adapt to the task. Which would make sense.

 

[sandyravage]

Latest 2 efforts were 1053cells one mistake, no omissions and 1075 cells completed no mistakes, no ommisions.

 

[Highlandspring]

You need to print sheets out and practice on paper as that’s how the test will be administered. Its actually quite a different experience from doing it on a computer.

 

[Theooboy]

Hello guys, quick question isit 1 minute per page or 2 minutes per page for the group bourdon thanks

 

[Peeler]

Hello guys, quick question isit 1 minute per page or 2 minutes per page for the group bourdon thanks

2 minute - 10 minute test in total.

 

[Theooboy]

Thanks last question approximately how many lines going down

 

[Peeler]

I think about 25?

 

[Devamo]

Hello - I have an assessment day for Senior Conductor at West Midlands Railway next week. Does anybody know if it'll be dots, shapes/letters test or a mixture of both? Thanks

 

[Theooboy]

Hello - I have an assessment day for Senior Conductor at West Midlands Railway next week. Does anybody know if it'll be dots, shapes/letters test or a mixture of both? Thanks

If your doing group bourdon it’s just group of dots bellow is some practise sheets very similar to the bourdon on the Assessment

https://traineetraindriverinfo.com/...merce_uploads/2013/12/Mock-Assesment-Copy.pdf

 

[Devamo]

If your doing group bourdon it’s just group of dots bellow is some practise sheets very similar to the bourdon on the Assessment

https://traineetraindriverinfo.com/...merce_uploads/2013/12/Mock-Assesment-Copy.pdf

Cool thanks for this. The email didn't say if it was group bourdon or not so we'll see. Also does anyone know with Abellio if you pass the tests, is the interview done on the same day or a different day? Thanks!