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Yes they have.68027
So have they really cancelled 1F31 to run a trainer? It is now shown on the journeycheck…..
Yes they have.68027
So have they really cancelled 1F31 to run a trainer? It is now shown on the journeycheck…..
68027
So have they really cancelled 1F31 to run a trainer? It is now shown on the journeycheck…..
Correct.
And the 397s partly because the 350s are going, but also partly to enable the Liverpool - Glasgow ORCATS raid too. Also as reported elsewhere, TPE (and DfT / "Rail North Partnership") allowed one 350 to be returned a couple of weeks back, on the back of perpetuating the unworkable "8 from 9" diagramming of 350s, necessitating borrowing a 185 from the core network - including putting at risk the strengthening of a key PM-peak working out of Manchester. Bottom line before passengers.
Could have been that 1F31 was going to be cancelled anyway for some reason so it became a useful path to run the trainer. Frequent with VSTP freights, less so with passengers.
Yes just been updated and is now running to Scarborough on a driver training run.
TPE are not benefitting financially from the delay to these trains - if anything, they are losing money due to the lease costs for the Class 68s.
So why could 1E31 not be run as a training run in passenger service?
The only guards qualified to work on this currently are on their booked diagrams.
Believe me it’s not simple just to shuffle people about.
Yes they have.
The only guards qualified to work on this currently are on their booked diagrams.
Believe me it’s not simple just to shuffle people about.
We (well, some of us) are thankful for your regular contributions of actual operational reality on this thread.
Not like its summer and people may wish to visit the seaside or anything....
We (well, some of us) are thankful for your regular contributions of actual operational reality on this thread.
At least they are doing better than yesterday.Same tomorrow, and Saturday. Unbelievable. Not like its summer and people may wish to visit the seaside or anything.... And people "upstairs" try to justify this, just shows how detached from reality they really are..... complete contempt for fare paying customers and the front line staff having to deal with irate pax who now have to wait for an hour for the next service to Malton, Seamer and Scarborough.
Running an ecs training run in the path of a cancelled passenger service does seem to be a bit passenger unfriendly.
Actually, it beggars belief.
If you don't have a guard, you can't run the passenger service, and at least this way the driver gets on a training run. These trains are late enough coming into service as it is and you want to make that worse?
A bit of sun would not have gone amiss
Before anyone complains, there are some Mk5a coaches behind 68025, I promise
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Thanks for that, greatly appreciated. I put my special breathing apparatus on, just in case the fumes were too muchJust catching up on things and I have to say that's an awesome image. Looks menacing, just as a good diesel loco should do
The Mk5a can be moved with any locomotive fitted with a draw hook and shackle. However the locomotive will not communicate with the stock via PIS, PADS and fire system.Mk5a's dont need anything special they have buffers, shackle and pipes at each end. If brakes are commissioned anything can haul them, I am trying to prove it as I've hauled them with a 68, 66, 70, 47 and 86s just need thec08 and 90 to complete the set!
Thanks for that, greatly appreciated. I put my special breathing apparatus on, just in case the fumes were too much
Bearing in mind there has been problems at Dewsbury earlier today, the cancellation of 1F31 is likely as a result of the fallout from the disruption and completely coincidental to this training run. The fact the path is being used means there isn't going to be a struggle to fit through the various pinch points on route. Yes punters are being shafted by the cancellation but that doesn't mean the crews have been deliberately pulled off the service to carry out this training run. I would be very surprised if that was indeed the case
Nono TPE management are evil and/or incompetent and are both trying to ensure that they ruin as many passengers lives as possibe whilst also trying to "steal" money from other operators!
Come on man get with the programme!
I'll be quite grateful if it's a bit late, as Yorkshire Tiger are doing their best to stop me getting to Huddersfield!Bearing in mind there has been problems at Dewsbury earlier today, the cancellation of 1F31 is likely as a result of the fallout from the disruption and completely coincidental to this training run. The fact the path is being used means there isn't going to be a struggle to fit through the various pinch points on route. Yes punters are being shafted by the cancellation but that doesn't mean the crews have been deliberately pulled off the service to carry out this training run. I would be very surprised if that was indeed the case
Whilst I do appreciate the frustration you might feel towards the delay on this project, believe me when I say, as I have done several times in this thread before, TPE (and all the people that make it happen) are not sitting back.
There are people absolutely busting a gut, day in, day out, to bring these trains into traffic ASAP. There are so many complexities that those of you who have never worked within a 'new trains' project will be completely unaware of. So please, have a bit of respect for the people who are working to bring these trains into traffic, as there is not a single person within the organisation who is making decisions to intentionally delay the project.
TPE are not benefitting financially from the delay to these trains - if anything, they are losing money due to the lease costs for the Class 68s.
I find the delay as frustrating as the next person, but I won't stand back and have (external, uninformed) people speak negatively of colleagues and friends who are giving their all to mitigate the things that prevent these trains from entering traffic.
This afternoon'scontroversy5F68, pictured shortly after leaving York, with 68027 pushing from Scarborough to Liverpool.
Photo reduced to (my) screen width and with the 68 almost out of view
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