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1248 is a booked HST monday-friday
1448 is booked a 170
1554 is also booked a HST
1248 ran today
1554 didn't it ran as a 170
Thanks for the info
1248 is a booked HST monday-friday
1448 is booked a 170
1554 is also booked a HST
1248 ran today
1554 didn't it ran as a 170
Am I correct in saying that the September delivery hasn’t happened and is late?
ScotrailJust out of idle interest, how many units have Wabtec completed for other TOCs, and how many are still to be completed? I may be missing something but I haven't heard a lot of wailing about late deliveries and units being delivered with major faults elsewhere.
Only 4 HSTs out today. 2 refurbished, 2 unrefurbished.
Only 4 HSTs out today. 2 refurbished, 2 unrefurbished.
0845 Inverness to Glasgow was a 6 car 170.
Credit to Scotrail...they are finding units as substitutes and avoiding cancelling services. But on the day they are quite rightly crowing about reliability of the Class 385's..the availability of HSTs must be a concern as it seems to be getting lower and lower.0845 Inverness to Glasgow was a 6 car 170.
Credit to Scotrail...they are finding units as substitutes and avoiding cancelling services. But on the day they are quite rightly crowing about reliability of the Class 385's..the availability of HSTs must be a concern as it seems to be getting lower and lower.
The only service that seemed to be a HST for at least 2 days in a row - was the 0942 Aberdeen to Stirling and 1235 Stirling to Inverness..and 1554 Inverness to Edinburgh.
As I said, the low availability of HST's is disappointing. But if the scheduled services are running- albeit with substitute traction - mainly Class 170s - then they have to be given credit for that. And the 170's and 158's can keep to the timings - so that isn't an issue either.
Thankfully the timetable booklets don't state that any particular service is an HST. And no-one seemed to complain that a service in the hands of a 158 was not their expected high-speed train. The travelling public don't seem bothered about it - or maybe because they are so used to the 158's and 170's they don't blink an eye at them. I never heard a single complaint on any of the services I travelled on that were either 170's or 158's. I think people quite like them - particularly the 170's.
Or maybe they are resigned to the fact that Scotrail's promise of improved Inter-city services is not going to happen.!As I said, the low availability of HST's is disappointing. But if the scheduled services are running- albeit with substitute traction - mainly Class 170s - then they have to be given credit for that. And the 170's and 158's can keep to the timings - so that isn't an issue either.
Thankfully the timetable booklets don't state that any particular service is an HST. And no-one seemed to complain that a service in the hands of a 158 was not their expected high-speed train. The travelling public don't seem bothered about it - or maybe because they are so used to the 158's and 170's they don't blink an eye at them. I never heard a single complaint on any of the services I travelled on that were either 170's or 158's. I think people quite like them - particularly the 170's.
As I said, the low availability of HST's is disappointing. But if the scheduled services are running- albeit with substitute traction - mainly Class 170s - then they have to be given credit for that. And the 170's and 158's can keep to the timings - so that isn't an issue either.
Thankfully the timetable booklets don't state that any particular service is an HST. And no-one seemed to complain that a service in the hands of a 158 was not their expected high-speed train. The travelling public don't seem bothered about it - or maybe because they are so used to the 158's and 170's they don't blink an eye at them. I never heard a single complaint on any of the services I travelled on that were either 170's or 158's. I think people quite like them - particularly the 170's.
As I said, the low availability of HST's is disappointing. But if the scheduled services are running- albeit with substitute traction - mainly Class 170s - then they have to be given credit for that. And the 170's and 158's can keep to the timings - so that isn't an issue either.
Thankfully the timetable booklets don't state that any particular service is an HST. And no-one seemed to complain that a service in the hands of a 158 was not their expected high-speed train. The travelling public don't seem bothered about it - or maybe because they are so used to the 158's and 170's they don't blink an eye at them. I never heard a single complaint on any of the services I travelled on that were either 170's or 158's. I think people quite like them - particularly the 170's.
Yes that's true to a degree.I think people are so used to the DMUs on these routes that HSTs are a new fangled thing .
They have no reason to feel that way. Just because there were issues with the 385's didn't mean they would never fix that issue and introduce them into service.Or maybe they are resigned to the fact that Scotrail's promise of improved Inter-city services is not going to happen.!
The train service is reliable. What isn't reliable is the deployment of HST's on it - hence substituting other DMU's in their place! I don't believe anyone at Scotrail is happy about it - apart from those staff who are appalled that the these "50 year old environmentally unfriendly " Classic sets are in use dumping effluent on the tracks, causing delays by guards having to walk down the train and manually shut doors etc!Think this understanding of how travellers feel has some merit but I think there is significant annoyance at the lack of seat reservations and lack of seats generally.
Needs to simply get this fixed. We need a reliable train service.
They used to run as 6 car on Sundays before the unit shortages startedThat's interesting, have Inverness services ever run as 2×170s?
0845 Inverness to Glasgow was a 6 car 170.
Can they? 170416-420 are due to transfer to EMR.They having a bit of luck at long last - they've now got just about enough Classics,158s and 170s to keep the service running without cancellations. So they could get away with this pretty much indefinitely, and I fear that this will be how it plays out for the next 18-24 months.
Yes that's true to a degree.
They have no reason to feel that way. Just because there were issues with the 385's didn't mean they would never fix that issue and introduce them into service.
And i don't think anyone can complain about that service now. So there;s every reason to believe it will eventually come right.
For only 4 HST sets to be in service suggests more issues going on than were anticipated, but they are still providing a train service. Only a single train was cancelled due to a set failure on Saturday. And when the set assigned to the 1630 Aberdeen to Glasgow failed, it was replaced with a 3-car 170 (originally assigned to the 1715 Aberdeen to Edinburgh) at short notice and left on its way. That meant the 17:15 Aberdeen to Edinburgh on Saturday night ended up as a 2-car 158. This was okay at the start but was full and standing after Dundee. So the lack of carriages became an issue.
But then there had been a Pride event in Dundee and lots of extra people seemed to be making their way home. I don't get the feeling that this was the regular quantity of people getting on a train to Edinburgh at that time of the evening!
Until that point - the 3-car 170's i travelled on all day substituting for the HST's, were well up to the job in terms of capacity and timekeeping. The Uk rail industry is suffering delays in delivery of new and refurbished rolling stock. And Scotrail aren't immune to it either I'm afraid.
The train service is reliable. What isn't reliable is the deployment of HST's on it - hence substituting other DMU's in their place! I don't believe anyone at Scotrail is happy about it - apart from those staff who are appalled that the these "50 year old environmentally unfriendly " Classic sets are in use dumping effluent on the tracks, causing delays by guards having to walk down the train and manually shut doors etc!
They used to run as 6 car on Sundays before the unit shortages started
Worth noting that standing from Perth in either direction is very common regardless whether it's a DMU sub in or a classic or refurb HST working the service. Had a refurb the other day from Pitlochry to Glasgow - full and standing from Perth, with one working toilet, a closed buffet, luggage in one vestibule, and one mountain bike encompassing both bike racks. This was at 8am!Reliability cannot be measured purely does a train turn up at roughly the right time. Reliability means you can book a seat and get the seat you booked. Having to stand from Edinburgh or Glasgow to Perth and beyond isn’t acceptable. That is is not a reliable predictable service.
Oh hell, I'd forgotten about that.Can they? 170416-420 are due to transfer to EMR.
Y apart from those staff who are appalled that the these "50 year old environmentally unfriendly " Classic sets