hexagon789
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The up platform is bi-directionalwhat confuse me is in the train is heading North bur appears to be on righthand track?
The up platform is bi-directionalwhat confuse me is in the train is heading North bur appears to be on righthand track?
The train's definitely heading south because Dalwhinnie station is on a left hand bend north to south.what confuse me is in the train is heading North bur appears to be on righthand track?
I doubt we're going to get much beyond speculation until the investigation is concluded and a report is published in due course.Anyone have any more news about Dalwhinnie derailment or any more pictures?
To be fair, news/pictures of the recovery and repair would be interesting enough and require no speculation.I doubt we're going to get much beyond speculation until the investigation is concluded and a report is published in due course.
Granted, but there will be speculation as to what the contents showTo be fair, news/pictures of the recovery and repair would be interesting enough and require no speculation.
2+5 set HA19.The HST set that became derailed near Dalwhinnie has been described in some media reports as a "test train".
What would have been tested during the "wee small hours" on a Saturday morning?
New HST set not yet in public service?2+5 set HA19.
I believe it worked as 2+4.New HST set not yet in public service?
Platform lengths/platform-train interface for the 5-car HST sets - all the ScotRail sets are currently 4-car.The HST set that became derailed near Dalwhinnie has been described in some media reports as a "test train".
What would have been tested during the "wee small hours" on a Saturday morning?
Thanks for clarifying. Looks like the train-rail interface might have been the biggest issue on Saturday morning!Platform lengths/platform-train interface for the 5-car HST sets - all the ScotRail sets are currently 4-car.
The photo on the Railscot website clearly shows a 5 car set.I believe it worked as 2+4.
It was a 5 car set, but I believe it had previously worked as 2+4. (Not 100% sure though).The photo on the Railscot website clearly shows a 5 car set.
It's HA19, which was the last (complete) set out of Wabtec earlier this year - I don't think it has yet been in passenger service, as it's the first 5-car set.It was a 5 car set, but I believe it had previously worked as 2+4. (Not 100% sure though).
Ah my mistake. In that case @Mcr Warrior was correct.It's HA19, which was the last (complete) set out of Wabtec earlier this year - I don't think it has yet been in passenger service, as it's the first 5-car set.
Anyone have any more news about Dalwhinnie derailment or any more pictures?
That’s what I’m thinking.Points moving underneath the train meaning the rear was stuck on the opposite track and eventually derailed?
Any idea when this will reopen?Line still closed tomorrow.
A similar suggestion was made on wnxxThis is just third hand local gossip, but my understanding is that the train should have crossed over onto the up line for a normal run on the double track section to Blair Atholl, but for some reason continued southbound on the down until the points moved.
No particular credence should be given to this explanation, it came from a friend of my wife (and neither my wife nor her friend are either clued up or interested) whose husband's brother works for Network Rail in the area!
If it was a normal southbound move then if they hadn't stopped at Dalwhinnie the line speed is 70mph.Does anyone think there will be repairs needed on the derailed elements? Sounds like it wasn't going at speed.
Good picture of the signal box diagram at https://flic.kr/p/23UAjdg. There is no signalled move at Dalwhinnie whereby an Up train can get on to the Down line. If I were investigating this, I’d be focussing on how/why that train (or at least, the vast majority of it) was where it ended up. It’s entirely possible that this was specially authorised given that this was a test train, but if that’s the case, there would be some very specific instructions issued.This is just third hand local gossip, but my understanding is that the train should have crossed over onto the up line for a normal run on the double track section to Blair Atholl, but for some reason continued southbound on the down until the points moved.
No particular credence should be given to this explanation, it came from a friend of my wife (and neither my wife nor her friend are either clued up or interested) whose husband's brother works for Network Rail in the area!
ROG driven, no injuries, thankfully. Rear coach and power car involved.
And there is no way of getting from the down line to the up line, except by a reversal over the trailing crossover. Very strange.Good picture of the signal box diagram at https://flic.kr/p/23UAjdg. There is no signalled move at Dalwhinnie whereby an Up train can get on to the Down line. If I were investigating this, I’d be focussing on how/why that train (or at least, the vast majority of it) was where it ended up. It’s entirely possible that this was specially authorised given that this was a test train, but if that’s the case, there would be some very specific instructions issued.