Progress of delivery of cascaded/refurbished/PRM modified stock to TFW/Wales and Borders

[The_Train]

150253 looking splendid in the sun in Canton depot

Is this now in full TfW livery, please?

Edit: Ignore this - just seen the confirmation from @PHILIPE in the TfW livery thread

 

[Bruce Hughes]

175105 is out in new livery!

 

[PHILIPE]

175105 is out in new livery!

It's been out since the 12th and reported in the TFW Livery Thread

 

[animationmilo]

150253 has been seen out in passenger service today, working between Barry island to Merthyr Tydfil. I have just seen a few photos on facebook.

 

[PHILIPE]

150253 has been seen out in passenger service today, working between Barry island to Merthyr Tydfil. I have just seen a few photos on facebook.

It has been posted in the TFW Livery Thread

 

[JakeMurphy]

Looks like we got a 158 off to Doncaster

 

[sd0733]

Looks like we got a 158 off to Doncaster

Should be 818. It was sent down from Shrewsbury yesterday for the trip.

 

[Caaardiff]

Major exams are being done at Doncaster

 

[JakeMurphy]

Should be 818. It was sent down from Shrewsbury yesterday for the trip.

correct. Passed me at Goostrey

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Oh good, I wasn't hallucinating after all when I thought I saw a Welsh 158 pass me at Mirfield! Unusual to see anything out of the ordinary through there in normal times, I suppose the reduced timetable has freed up some paths.

 

[sd0733]

153906 has today run as 5Z53 from Canton to Landore. Not 100% as to the reason but hopefully it could be the first of the 153/9 'PRM light' refurbs.

 

[Anonymous10]

what 158s havent received the interior refurb i dont think theres many left but definitely one in front of me which hasnt

153906 has today run as 5Z53 from Canton to Landore. Not 100% as to the reason but hopefully it could be the first of the 153/9 'PRM light' refurbs.

wasnt this with the 143s which are now out of service

 

[sd0733]

what 158s havent received the interior refurb i dont think theres many left but definitely one in front of me which hasnt


wasnt this with the 143s which are now out of service

158s left to do i believe are 823-828/832/836/837/840.

That post was from early April. 906 went down then, 926 is also there and 921 went today. Presumably one will head back soon if another has arrived.

 

[Cardiff123]

With all of the focus on the withdrawal of TfW's 143s, it's easy to forget that TfW have a good number of un-compliant 153s as well, which it has been using to strengthen services.
Will all of TfW's unmodified 153/9s have to be withdrawn on Monday, or is there an extension for those? And has there been a toiletless PRM modified 153 in service yet?

 

[sd0733]

With all of the focus on the withdrawal of TfW's 143s, it's easy to forget that TfW have a good number of un-compliant 153s as well, which it has been using to strengthen services.
Will all of TfW's unmodified 153/9s have to be withdrawn on Monday, or is there an extension for those?

Theyve had an extension to Dec 31st but should all be 'PRM-Lite' ie no toilet well before then.
Not sure when the 4 extras (918,968,972,982) are going.

 

[Cardiff123]

Theyve had an extension to Dec 31st.

Thanks for the quick reply!

 

[Techniquest]

Theyve had an extension to Dec 31st but should all be 'PRM-Lite' ie no toilet well before then.
Not sure when the 4 extras (918,968,972,982) are going.

I'm well out of touch, clearly, at the moment with what's going on and what isn't, so apologies if this is a silly question:

The PRM-lite ones, are they only therefore allowed to operate with other PRM-full trains?

It's been forever and a week since I genned up on TfW, I've seen the 769s are getting there at last though

 

[Anonymous10]

158s left to do i believe are 823-828/832/836/837/840.

That post was from early April. 906 went down then, 926 is also there and 921 went today. Presumably one will head back soon if another has arrived.

thanks im not sure of unit number as have now left station and omw home from work but its on the Carmarthen pembroke dock shuttle one of only a few waiting will be good to wee them all looking smart and ship shape

 

[sd0733]

I'm well out of touch, clearly, at the moment with what's going on and what isn't, so apologies if this is a silly question:

The PRM-lite ones, are they only therefore allowed to operate with other PRM-full trains?

It's been forever and a week since I genned up on TfW, I've seen the 769s are getting there at last though

I believe so. None are out yet so not entirely sure what the procedure will be with them but i would presume its the same as the other 153/9s which always run with a 150, 153/3 or a 158.

 

[Techniquest]

I believe so. None are out yet so not entirely sure what the procedure will be with them but i would presume its the same as the other 153/9s which always run with a 150, 153/3 or a 158.

Thanks, it'll be interesting to see what happens in that case. Something different to look out for when I go 769 hunting later in the year!

 

[TrainTrackJack]

82229 + 4 Mark IV's + 67010 passed through Bangor earlier, on test or just E. C. S?

 

[PHILIPE]

82229 + 4 Mark IV's + 67010 passed through Bangor earlier, on test or just E. C. S?

This has been running regularly for months for crew training on Class 67 with Mark 4 Stock. It has been running between Holyhead together with others between Crewe and East Usk Jcn and between Cardiff and various locations between there and Chester. Very well documented across the Forum.

Thread here with link to another

www.railforums.co.uk/threads/ex-lner-mark-4-sets-for-tfw.182406/page-27

This set is staying at Holyhead today ready for kick off in service between Holyhead and Cardiff on Monday

 

[The_Train]

Commenced service today and then TfW confirm they are taking on the ex GC sets to operate as 5 car sets from Manchester Picc to Swansea from Dec 2022 after a period of refurbishment

 

[PHILIPE]

Commenced service today and then TfW confirm they are taking on the ex GC sets to operate as 5 car sets from Manchester Picc to Swansea from Dec 2022 after a period of refurbishment

Already posted here:-

www.railforums.co.uk/threads/ex-lner-and-grand-central-mark-4-sets-for-tfw.182406/page-27

 

[py_megapixel]

Commenced service today and then TfW confirm they are taking on the ex GC sets to operate as 5 car sets from Manchester Picc to Swansea from Dec 2022 after a period of refurbishment

Will that cover all of the Pic-Swansea diagrams? Because if not, there will be a very bizarre mixture of formations on there: Civities, which will be shiny and new but still commuter/regional DMUs at heart (and depending upon who you ask pretty bad ones), alongside rakes of Mk4s to proper intercity specification but almost 3 decades older.

 

[iantherev]

Will that cover all of the Pic-Swansea diagrams? Because if not, there will be a very bizarre mixture of formations on there: Civities, which will be shiny and new but still commuter/regional DMUs at heart (and depending upon who you ask pretty bad ones), alongside rakes of Mk4s to proper intercity specification but almost 3 decades older.

I think most people will be happy with a bizarre mixture of formations if it means a better chance of getting a seat. It's not exactply uniform now with a mix of 150/153/158/175s in use.

 

[py_megapixel]

I think most people will be happy with a bizarre mixture of formations if it means a better chance of getting a seat. It's not exactply uniform now with a mix of 150/153/158/175s in use.

Indeed - I wasn't saying it would be a problem, just that it would be interesting and slightly odd!

 

[iantherev]

Indeed - I wasn't saying it would be a problem, just that it would be interesting and slightly odd!

Indeed - variety is the spice of life.

 

[Anonymous10]

great to see tfw taking on more mark 4 coaches as the 170s are supposed to being all sublet to another operator which implies west wales will get the new 197s

 

[craigybagel]

great to see tfw taking on more mark 4 coaches as the 170s are supposed to being all sublet to another operator which implies west wales will get the new 197s

Don't count your chickens....