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Oldest running units will be mersey peps
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Southern Class 313 withdrawal/storage/scrapping updates
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London Underground 1972 and 1973 tube stock trains are already older in terms of passenger service.
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I’ve enjoyed seeing people’s pictures of the 313s lately. True, I have been more than vocal of my opinion that they’re well past time to go, and I have also added that I personally believe the 377 will offer a much nicer travelling experience for Joe Public, but I won’t deny having a fondness for the Southern ones. I think they look great in the green Coastway livery - although the fact the doors are a different shade of green to those on 171/377/late 455 always confused me - and as someone who would regularly get the train down to Portsmouth from near Guildford to get things from the Nike outlet at Gunwharf Quays (and more recently to catch the GWR to Cardiff for uni) I’ll admit I used to alight the SWR service at Havant to continue my journey on a quirky 313. That being said, I hated the GN ones!
It’s a shame that I won’t get to go on one again now, but as I said, it is well past time and trains with toilets really are needed on the Coastway. Plugs and tables are also very useful of course.
It’s a shame that I won’t get to go on one again now, but as I said, it is well past time and trains with toilets really are needed on the Coastway. Plugs and tables are also very useful of course.
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I think the oldest entered service November 1978, most were 1979-1981
Fairly sure some of the remaining HST vehicles might be older (entered service 1976-82), and aren't there also some mk3 carriages with Chiltern etc that were from mid 1970s
So unless anyone has definite dates, not sure if the 313s are the oldest mainline passenger stock.
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The oldest Chiltern Mark 3 is 12618, originally 11008.
The oldest (now) HST Mark 3 is XC's 45001, which was originally 12004, the first production LHCS TSO.
As LHCS Mark 3 production started in 1975, it is likely one of these is the oldest vehicle in service.
A large proportion of the Mark 3 fleet will be older than the 507 and 508 fleet.
Islineclear3_1
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Nope some carriages are to be converted to barrier vehicles to replace the former 508 ones whilst others are to be used for fire evacuation exercises first
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ah i see thanks
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Why the wink at the end? Is it a joke?Nope some carriages are to be converted to barrier vehicles to replace the former 508 ones whilst others are to be used for fire evacuation exercises first
Islineclear3_1
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Yes it was a joke. I have no inside knowledge
Ho ho.Nope some carriages are to be converted to barrier vehicles to replace the former 508 ones whilst others are to be used for fire evacuation exercises first
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that1pepfan
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313201 was on 5Z57 Lovers walk - Lovers walk
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Islineclear3_1
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Was that the West Worthing one?
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Yes.
(First time I've tried an attachment. Didn't think it worked)
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Sadly for those who wanted to see it again-313101 moved yesterday (2/5/23) with 313208 to Hove yard.
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313201?
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I guess 208's move to Hove yard, ties in with why it was substituted by 213 for the Sussex Rambler.
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is hove yard just beside hove station?
that1pepfan
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Just went to hove to check is 313201 there. Turns out it isn’t. Only 313204 and some other unit behind it.
I checked trains that went in and out of hove yard. I can’t confirm which one is 313201. It may have moved to elsewhere or have returned to Lovers Walk? Again I can’t tell.
I checked trains that went in and out of hove yard. I can’t confirm which one is 313201. It may have moved to elsewhere or have returned to Lovers Walk? Again I can’t tell.
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that1pepfan
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Returned to lovers walk for Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursdays scrap move.
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201 and 208 returned to Lovers Walk yesterday
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I checked lovers walk as well. None to be seen. Is 313201 already scarped?
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They're in 10 road.
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oooooh i see. so its hid behind another 313. But then yea is 313201 gonna be scraped or preserved?
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I’d be shocked if it was scrapped, but it’s very possible.
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Isn't 313201 going to the National Railway Museum at some point?
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nope. they changed the designation to the NR ECTS testbed as it retains several 'as built' features, which its southern refurbed sisters no longer have
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