Leeds railway station

[warriorofrovac]

Can anyone tell me what the general platform use is at Leeds for Northern Rail?

It says on the wikipedia article that Northern uses:
Bays 1-6 for terminating 'MetroTrain' services
Bays 10, 13 and 17 for services to South/West
Bays 7 and 14 for services North/East

However I was looking on National Rail Enquiries and quite a number of Northern services that start at Leeds were using platforms 11 and 12 which are through platforms?

 

[142094]

Platform 1 is usually Knaresborough and Harrogate/York trains, platform 2-4 are Bradford FS, Ilkley and Skipton and Morecambe/Heysham Port. Through platforms not including 9-10 and 15-16 can be for York - Blackpool and Wakefield - Selby trains, and also the Mac Vic stoppers. 13 is usually Leeds - Huddersfield local trains. 17 is the Nottingham fasts, Sheffield trains and Knottingley/Pontefract. Doncaster is normally 11/12. Platform 7 was used by a Leeds - York evening service.

As always it does change and some services will pop up on random platforms and no doubt I'll have made a mistake somewhere.

 

[Oswyntail]

Often, if a service is being run by a unit just off depot, it could well use the through roads (and, if arriving before popping off to depot). And dont forget there are through services

 

[YorkshireBear]

Errm just about every platform i see in use with northern... Simply because of the amount of services that start and finish then trundle off to neville hill (or come from neville hill). I have caught a northern service off every platform except 7

 

[jha4ceb]

I've also seen Carlisle departures leave from through platforms.

How many services are booked into platform 14? I see a Northern unit arrive there empty during the evening peak, but I don't know where it goes afterward.

 

[YorkshireRider]

Think thats the 1746 all stops to Selby service, not many booked into that platform, i got on the last York stopper on saturday night (2255) from there but cant think of many others.

 

[GNERman]

Let's do this properly...

Platform 1 - Harrogate, Knaresborough and York Services (also EC's KGX - Harrogate, Skipton and Bradford services use this platform on a night...)

Platform 2-5 - Bradford FS / Ilkley / Skipton services, also Carlisles and Morecambes use...

Platforms 6 and 8 - East Coast services to KGX

Platform 7 - Generally not used, looks to be used by 1tpd - 2T94 1728 LDS-YRK

Platform 9 - XC to Scotland and Northern Blackpool-York and Man Vic-Selby (and the daily EC LDS-ABD)

Platform 10 - Mixture, Doncaster and Man Vic services use it...

Platform 11 - XC southbound, also Northern services Blackpool-York and Man Vic-Selby use it, as well as P12

Platform 12 - Northern services Blackpool-York and Man Vic-Selby, and Doncaster services

Platform 13 - Generally Northern slow Man Vic and Sheffield services

Platform 14 - Like P7 generally unused, 2tpd - 1T92 LDS-YRK by Northern, which is actually a stock move for a York-Hull service, the only Northern service to do LDS-YRK non-stop, and 2K22 1746 LDS-SBY...

Platforms 15 and 16 - TPE services, some Northern services use, including the 0803 Nottingham which normally uses P15...

Platform 17 - Northern Nottingham/Sheffield fasts and Knottingley services

Any Questions???...

 

[John @ home]

p8 is also used by Northern in both am and pm peaks and by XC on Saturdays.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Leeds p14 passenger trains in ('ex-') and out ('to')
M-F:
1719 ex-Selby
1927 ex-Selby
2222 ex-Selby
2145 to York
0713 to Selby
1749 to Selby

SO:
0638 to York
0713 to Selby
2222 to Selby

SuO:
2159 ex-Selby
1012 to York

Data correct for 2010, but to the best of my knowledge it hasn't changed.

 

[142094]

The 09.02 used to be my regular from York - 08.27 booked for a 142. Doesn't run any longer so you can scratch that. Only ones I've seen in there are to/from Selby.

I can vouch that the 17.28 to York was the only one that I've seen and used going out of 7.

 

[34D]

plat 11 and 12 have the through road between them, it is common for a train from crossgates to pudsey to use the centre road then scissors to serve 12a/b and a train from pudsey to crossgates to also use the centre road scissors to 12d. Etc etc

 

[142094]

Trains to/from Blackpool North often do this as well - can be annoying as if you want to get a seat to York, trying to see if it is a 2 or 3 car 158 (and so where the doors will be) is tricky.

 

[Deerfold]

Platform 9 is often used by late evening EC arrivals which presumably then go ECS to Neville Hill. And very annoying it is too.

 

[142094]

Platform 9 is often used by late evening EC arrivals which presumably then go ECS to Neville Hill. And very annoying it is too.

8 is another regular for the ones that go ECS to Neville Hil.

 

[Deerfold]

8 is another regular for the ones that go ECS to Neville Hil.

Yes, but that's less unusal as about 50% of departures from Leeds to KGX go from 8 anyway.

Some of the late ones must do something odd - the 1803 ex KGX to Skipton seems to come back ECS into Platform 6 -must be a pain to get to Neville Hill from there.

 

[YorkshireRider]

Yes, but that's less unusal as about 50% of departures from Leeds to KGX go from 8 anyway.

Some of the late ones must do something odd - the 1803 ex KGX to Skipton seems to come back ECS into Platform 6 -must be a pain to get to Neville Hill from there.

Are you sure its the Skipton set? 2 91s are stabled overnight in platforms 1 and 6 to form early morning depatures (The 0505 and 0530) but i thought it was the 1903 and 1933 KX-LDS services that go to Neville Hill but are cleaned and tanked early and comes back through Leeds station usually around 11pm to mid night and shunt into platform 1 and 6. Now it could be the Skipton set is just cleaned and tanked in platform 6 and doesnt go to Neville Hill. I assume all this is to ease conjestion at the depot.

 

[Crossover]

TPE's do occasionally use other platforms than 15 and 16 (9 being one I think) though less often. There are times where 15 is used for services towards Manchester as well

 

[142094]

TPE's do occasionally use other platforms than 15 and 16 (9 being one I think) though less often. There are times where 15 is used for services towards Manchester as well

Doesn't happen very often and looks strange when it does. I once boarded a TPE to York from the east facing bay which isn't 7 (must have been disruption).

 

[shedman]

The ex Skipton set did in the last timetable run to Neville Hill but I'm not sure if it does now. The first two off Leeds are early departures off Neville Hill (2335 and 0012) because they are MKiv sets and there are few wired roads to stable on early in the night. I do know EC were after another set coming up to Neville Hill but not sure what diagram this runs, maybe a late York arrival that runs ECS to Heaton?

 

[142094]

I do know EC were after another set coming up to Neville Hill but not sure what diagram this runs, maybe a late York arrival that runs ECS to Heaton?

Don't think there are any EC services that terminate late at night at York - the 22.00 from KGX goes all the way to Newcastle. I'm sure there used to be a service from the north that terminated at Doncaster but this must have changed with the timetables.

 

[YorkshireRider]

The only sercvice i think this can be refering to is the sunday am 0800 depature off York which stables in York overnight (plat 7). EC would probably prefer the set to be at Neville Hill for logistical reasons.

 

[Bridge189]

Don't think there are any EC services that terminate late at night at York - the 22.00 from KGX goes all the way to Newcastle. I'm sure there used to be a service from the north that terminated at Doncaster but this must have changed with the timetables.

Yes the 19.50 from Glasgow terminated at York on the old timetable. The 22.00 from KGX is now a Newcastle train ( believe it used to just go to York)

 

[323Matt]

TPE's do occasionally use other platforms than 15 and 16 (9 being one I think) though less often. There are times where 15 is used for services towards Manchester as well

Last year I was on a Manchester to Hull TPE service that used platform 9.

 

[142094]

Yes the 19.50 from Glasgow terminated at York on the old timetable. The 22.00 from KGX is now a Newcastle train ( believe it used to just go to York)

Aye that's it - must have been an early morning service that started at Doncaster perhaps? Might be getting my wires crossed again...

 

[Bridge189]

Aye that's it - must have been an early morning service that started at Doncaster perhaps? Might be getting my wires crossed again...

Nope your right there was a 05.30ish Doncaster-Edinburgh I believe this working was also the premier of wifi. I seem to remember something along those lines anyways.

 

[YorkshireBear]

As far as i am aware the last train off edinburgh (certainly used to) reverse up to leeds at doncaster.
Just checked it now terminates at doncaster (on saturdays anyway) im sure it used to reverse up to leeds in scheduled service.

 

[142094]

That might be where I'm getting confused - before the timetable change Doncaster and York were two of the less frequent places for EC to terminate.

I did once go Leeds - Doncaster - Newcastle - Carlisle in the past few years when the Tyne Valley diverts were on and there were some other engineering works going on near Leeds at that time.

 

[ValleyLines142]

The 09.02 used to be my regular from York - 08.27 booked for a 142. Doesn't run any longer so you can scratch that. Only ones I've seen in there are to/from Selby.

I can vouch that the 17.28 to York was the only one that I've seen and used going out of 7.

2T85 0540 York to Leeds uses platform 7A.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Leeds platform 7:

M-F:
0835, 1948, 2157 and 2356 ex-York
2144 ex-Selby
0638 and 1728 to York
0714 to Selby

SO:
1758 and 1956 ex-Selby

SuO:
0912 and 2232 ex-York

Data correct for 2010, obviously some thing may have changed.

 

[142094]

Is that arrival time at Leeds or departure time from origin station?

For Saturday I can see that 1K25 from Hull arrives into 7 at 1758, but the 1956 I can't find.

The former 08.27 off York used to arrive in a different platform each day, it was that random.