How predictable!
I still personally agree with Mr. Pollock's actions, but we shall see what happens.
I have actually seen a security agent on the Dublin LUAS tram forcibly remove (by picking up) a young troublemaker.
Are there any relevant byelaws or Acts relating to LUAS or public vehicles in Ireland? Sadly I don't know anything about Irish law.
If what the Dad says is true then a battery (possibly ABH if that injury is one he sustained in the video) charge is possible.
In any case, in this country we have the doctrine of innocent until proven guilty so it would be an issue for the courts to sort. He can raise the public defence of Self defence. From the point of view of someone who is interested in Law it would be interesting to see how this one plays out.
I still personally agree with Mr. Pollock's actions, but we shall see what happens.
Quite possibly, but it's a tangle for the courts to sort out if it ever gets that far!I suspect the injury was not sustain during the initial throwing off but when he tried to rejoin the train by running at the 'big man' (assault on big man??) and then the big man ejected him onto the platform and he seem to fall sidewards.
Either way as far as I am concerned the youth got what he deserved. If a claim of assault is made then a counter claim of travelling without a ticket can be brought against the fare evader.
Either way as far as I am concerned the youth got what he deserved. If a claim of assault is made then a counter claim of travelling without a ticket can be brought against the fare evader.
Sam Main had previously claimed "I did have a ticket but I must have handed over the wrong one to the conductor. The next thing I know this big guy is manhandling me to the door and throwing me off" but this is quite unbelievable as the guard could see the ticket said "SGL", if Sam Maim was telling the truth the ticket would have said "OUT" if it was the "wrong portion".The fare dodger's father wants the bloke who chucked his son off charged for assault:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ollock-throws-fare-dodger-Sam-Main-train.html
sam main had previously claimed "i did have a ticket but i must have handed over the wrong one to the conductor. The next thing i know this big guy is manhandling me to the door and throwing me off" but this is quite unbelievable as the guard could see the ticket said "sgl", if sam maim was telling the truth the ticket would have said "out" if it was the "wrong portion".
His dad, lenny main has come up with another excuse, after the previous excuse was obviously found out to be false. "sam went to the railway station at polmont at 8am to buy a return ticket, but was told two singles would be cheaper as he planned to return off peak."
this is theoretically possible if he got an sds (£5.10) and then used a railcard to get a discounted cds (£3.35), total would be £8.45. However surely the guard wouldn't chuck someone off if they held such tickets and explained the situation? But did this polite student studying for an exam explain the situation? No. A rude chav ("ned" in scotland) was foul mouthed and showed disregard for everyone on board the train.
If it looks like a chav, sounds like a chav, and acts like a chav, the chances are... It is a chav. The excuses do not wash and are a contradiction: He swore because he had a drink, yet was concentrating for an exam?! Yeah right! As if!
I do think it was wrong for the person who filmed this to put it online. Chavs usually get their way, here we had a case where a chav did not get his way, which is quite unusual in cases like this. So what does he do? Give the chav a chance to win by getting his daddy to get bloodsucking lawyers involved and use the video as evidence. :roll:
I'm all for defending the rights of passengers, and totally opposed to guards abusing their power, but what i see here is nothing more than an abusive, disrespectful foul-mouthed lout who thinks he can get away with anything and that the world owes him respect yet he has to respect nobody.
All the best to the guard, the big man, and as for sam maim: Shame on you. Now go and learn some manners.
Still, at least he won't be getting a job surveying now, as no-one would employ him in a job like that. Imagine that! "can you adjust the angle a couple more degrees please?" "f*** off! I've already adjusted the f***ing angle! I am not moving it! Now leave me alone, i'm drunk, and i'll get my daddy on to you"
Apparently he had that exam that day and had had a drink to celebrate. Not that that excuses him.he swore because he had a drink, yet was concentrating for an exam?! Yeah right! As if!
The fare dodger's father wants the bloke who chucked his son off charged for assault:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ollock-throws-fare-dodger-Sam-Main-train.html
Ah, yet another change of story!Apparently he had that exam that day and had had a drink to celebrate. Not that that excuses him.
Even when found out, they still can't face the truth, and the hardest word for them is "sorry".
Even when found out, they still can't face the truth, and the hardest word for them is "sorry". They just can't say it, let alone mean it. It's all about "respect" - that's the world having to respect them, not them giving any.
Apparently he had that exam that day and had had a drink to celebrate. Not that that excuses him.
So we are now adding drunk on the railway (bylaw 7 I believe, but may be wrong) to the charge sheet?
Rule number 1 - when in a hole, stop digging!
Byelaw 4.
4.1: "No person shall enter or remain on the railway where such person is unfit to enter or remain on the railway as a result of being in a state of intoxication."
4.3.i: "Where an authorised person reasonably believes that any person is unfit to enter or remain on the railway... an authorised person may: (i) require him to leave the railway."
Oh!Apparently he had that exam that day and had had a drink to celebrate.
Tip number two. Give up your studies and any hope for a professional career now. Get yourself a basic local job now, before your prospects get any worse.Tip for the wee ned - next time pay for a ticket.
Oh!
An exam? I thought that the four-lettered word he used on-board began with and 'f' not an 'e'.
Its so easy to confuse the two words.
According to his father he had an exam... :roll:
I hope the Doctor had cold hands.