jonesy3001
Established Member
Mobile maintenance unit
-
Our booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk (powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!
Blackpool - Manchester Electrification
- Thread starter GRALISTAIR
- Start date
- Status
Mobile maintenance unit
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R
RailUK Forums
TBSchenker
Member
- Joined
- 15 Sep 2010
- Messages
- 555
One frustrating issue now being raised is the continuance of rail replacement buses for early morning and late night services . Especially when there is no engineering work going on .Confirmed in the WON for thist week there is no work on, and even more frustrating is they are actually diverting services from the Atherton line via Bolton and Westhoughton,!
I wonder if Bolton RRB station will ever close.
Chrisyd
Member
- Joined
- 16 May 2015
- Messages
- 204
On a lot of the stations on the newly electrified line including Bolton there are overhead warning signs as you enter the platform about there being live wires above the rails (I think previously someone put the signs for Chorley which made an arch over the entrance).
Salford Central does not have these but it does have this warning for drivers at the end of the platform towards Crescent:
by Chris Davis, on Flickr
Salford Central does not have these but it does have this warning for drivers at the end of the platform towards Crescent:
by Chris Davis, on Flickr
Elecman
Established Member
That was Lostock Parkway not Chorley
edwin_m
Veteran Member
At Bolton and Lostock there are pre-existing road bridges at the platform ends. It could be that the need to take the wire under these bridges means they don't meet the platform clearance in the latest standard. Reduced clearance is possible subject to risk assessment, and warning signs for passengers may be one of the mitigations that the risk assessment has recommended.
If this is indeed the reason for the signs, there is no overbridge near Salford Central, so I would expect it to be fully compliant to this standard and therefore not to need other risk mitigation measures.
If this is indeed the reason for the signs, there is no overbridge near Salford Central, so I would expect it to be fully compliant to this standard and therefore not to need other risk mitigation measures.
They can be seen at Horwich too.
GRALISTAIR
Established Member
LDECRexile
Established Member
Happy New Year
Without looking up the exact quote, there was mention before Christmas of overnight electric runs at the new speed limits "early in the New Year", with talk that these might be by 319s
Has anyone heard owt of this?
Without looking up the exact quote, there was mention before Christmas of overnight electric runs at the new speed limits "early in the New Year", with talk that these might be by 319s
Has anyone heard owt of this?
And Blackrod
Overnight runs have appeared in timetable for 23rd and 24th Jan,between Preston/Buckshaw parkway and Manchester Victoria.
absolutelymilk
Established Member
- Joined
- 18 Jul 2015
- Messages
- 1,244
LDECRexile
Established Member
Interesting, thank you.
If anyone learns that the standard heading about Sprinter and 75mph max is inaccurate please post asap.
If anyone learns that the standard heading about Sprinter and 75mph max is inaccurate please post asap.
td97
Established Member
- Joined
- 26 Jul 2017
- Messages
- 1,302
There's 8 in total through Bolton, all Northern services:
23/01/2019
- (5Z90 2230 Allerton Depot to Preston)
- 5Z91 0030 Preston to Manchester Victoria
- 5Z92 0150 Manchester Victoria to Buckshaw Parkway
- 5Z93 0228 Buckshaw Parkway to Manchester Victoria
- 5Z94 0307 Manchester Victoria to Preston
- (5Z95 0405 Preston to Allerton Depot)
- (5Z90 2230 Allerton Depot to Preston)
- 5Z91 0030 Preston to Manchester Victoria
- 5Z92 0150 Manchester Victoria to Buckshaw Parkway
- 5Z93 0228 Buckshaw Parkway to Manchester Victoria
- 5Z94 0307 Manchester Victoria to Preston
- (5Z95 0405 Preston to Allerton Depot)
No timing loads (Sectional Running Times) exist for EMUs on the Bolton corridor yet (probably).
Edit: Added in Allerton<=> Preston paths
Last edited:
driver9000
Established Member
- Joined
- 13 Jan 2008
- Messages
- 4,247
Word coming through that TPE 22:13 Edinburgh Waverley to Manchester Airport running as booked with a 350 will be running via Chorley and Bolton 11-14 February due to engineering work on the Chat Moss.
However the runs are preceded by http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S05791/2019/01/22/advanced 5Z90 from Allerton depot to Preston pathed as 319 (and as far as I know only 319s are now living there)
59CosG95
Established Member
Yes - all the Allerton fleet of 156s was cascaded over to Newton Heath at the turn of last year.
Oddly http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/S05800/2019/01/23/advanced 5Z95 going back home is pathed as sprinter DMU
td97
Established Member
- Joined
- 26 Jul 2017
- Messages
- 1,302
Yes they are. I missed the runs to/from Allerton out, but have edited my post to add them in.
TBSchenker
Member
- Joined
- 15 Sep 2010
- Messages
- 555
Better hope that network rail update the Sectional Appendix!
Muenchener
Member
- Joined
- 31 May 2018
- Messages
- 142
Bring it on!
There's a blanket ESR of 75mph being imposed for electric traction only, from 00.01 Sunday 13/1 and applying from Salford Crescent to Euxton Jn.
Imposed until testing complete. Reading between the lines, this suggests there might indeed be electric traction booked via Chorley from Sunday.
Imposed until testing complete. Reading between the lines, this suggests there might indeed be electric traction booked via Chorley from Sunday.
jonesy3001
Established Member
this sunday?
TBSchenker
Member
- Joined
- 15 Sep 2010
- Messages
- 555
The Weekly Operating Notice for this week (Saturday 12th Jan) has updated sectional appendix pages for Windsor Bridge South Jn to Burden Jn which have the enhance running (upto max 100mph).
As with north of Bolton to Chorley, this clearly hasn't been signed off so the 75mph speed restriction will be in place (also like Bolton - Chorley) .as nothing is in the WON Section A, it will initially be an Emergency Speed Restriction until it can be published as a Temporary Speed Restriction .
I'm not convinced it's to allow EMUs to run on Sunday, but happy to be proved wrong.
The WON late last year also had these speed increases detailed, but the work never went ahead.
As of yet there is no published ESR, but the SA pages are dated the 13th so the ESR wouldn't come into force until tomorrow anyway.
As with north of Bolton to Chorley, this clearly hasn't been signed off so the 75mph speed restriction will be in place (also like Bolton - Chorley) .as nothing is in the WON Section A, it will initially be an Emergency Speed Restriction until it can be published as a Temporary Speed Restriction .
I'm not convinced it's to allow EMUs to run on Sunday, but happy to be proved wrong.
The WON late last year also had these speed increases detailed, but the work never went ahead.
As of yet there is no published ESR, but the SA pages are dated the 13th so the ESR wouldn't come into force until tomorrow anyway.
Jozhua
Established Member
- Joined
- 6 Jan 2019
- Messages
- 1,859
So will we see many Electric Trains from Salford Crescent to Piccadilly, doing the trip later today and was hoping I may see or even ride an electric train!
Northern are currently hiring 3 185s a day from TPE because they're short of DMUs; this will stop when they have enough DMUs to replace them.
I think TPE still run the odd 185 on Scottish services, to maintain driver knowledge. If this continues, 185s will still make an occasional appearance of the line.
superkev
Established Member
Northern gets around 50 2nd hand units and is still short. Hires 3 185s off TPE then hires 170s with drivers to TPE for Leeds Huddersfield.
Strange old world.
K
- Status