C Stock

[317666]

I also did the entire run from Barking to Hammersmith, was gutted to find that 211 was S7 after I deliberately came down in the morning peak to try and get a run on it before heading over to Barking!

I would love it if a set was preserved in running condition, as they're my favourite sub-surface stock, but I'm afraid I can't see it happening, I don't think there's the space for one.

 

[ModernRailways]

I would love it if a set was preserved in running condition, as they're my favourite sub-surface stock, but I'm afraid I can't see it happening, I don't think there's the space for one.

From what the driver told me the other day, one set will be kept and done up to form a heritage train. No idea how true it is, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Acton depot will need expanding soon to fit all the trains in

 

[Mikey C]

From what the driver told me the other day, one set will be kept and done up to form a heritage train. No idea how true it is, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Acton depot will need expanding soon to fit all the trains in

The Bakerloo Line will be keeping its 'heritage' fleet for the next 20 years

 

[43074]

Does anyone know when the last day of C stock on the District Line will be? I know half of the District diagrams are going over to S7 by the end of the month, just wondering when the other four will go over to S7.

 

[Dstock7080]

Does anyone know when the last day of C stock on the District Line will be? I know half of the District diagrams are going over to S7 by the end of the month, just wondering when the other four will go over to S7.

No precise date yet, originally intended to be 18 May but will probably be later.

 

[43074]

No precise date yet, originally intended to be 18 May but will probably be later.

Thank You

So what is happening in the meantime then? (March/April) Will the rate of deliveries slow down or are D-stock drivers being trained on them?

 

[Dstock7080]

So what is happening in the meantime then? (March/April) Will the rate of deliveries slow down or are D-stock drivers being trained on them?

Deliveries are still coming 1 per-week.
Still around 16 at the Test Track. No news if deliveries will slow.
Earl's Court drivers are 98% complete S7 trained, Acton Town are only starting on 23/2, with Barking and Upminster following later in the year.

 

[43074]

Ironically there was no S7 delivery this week.
Still around 16 at the Test Track. No news if deliveries will slow.
Earl's Court drivers are 98% complete S7 trained, Acton Town are only starting on 23/2, with Barking and Upminster following later in the year.

Thanks for that, very informative.

 

[simple simon]

On Monday, 17th February, 6 cars of C stock will transfer (additional empty) as follows:-

Train No. 716

Neasden Depot (F) dep 13 04

Wembley Park (pfm 1) 13 12½

FL

Harrow-on-the-Hill (pfm 3) 13 19½

Rayners Lane 13 24½

Rayners Lane Siding arr 13 25½

dep 13 31

Rayners Lane 13 32

South Harrow 13 35

Alperton 13 42½

North Ealing 13/47

Ealing Common 13/49

Ealing Common Depot (W) arr 13 51

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Is there any Northwood activity at all tomorrow ( Monday 17th ) please?

 

[Dstock7080]

Is there any Northwood activity at all tomorrow ( Monday 17th ) please?

Indeed, STN47/14 refers:
T716
1108 NEA depot
1145 WAT24 1153
1205 NWood sdg.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Thanks - it being half term and my son wanting to see the low loaders leave and tomorrow being the only day off I can get this week....

 

[Dstock7080]

247 was C W5712-5560-5596E H&C last night 19.25 HMS to finish.

5586+5553+5534 at Northwood today.

 

[Julian G]

On Monday, 17th February, 6 cars of C stock will transfer (additional empty) as follows:-

That didn't run in the end.

 

[4-6-2 Coast]

Just thought I'd note that at least two trains of S7 stock appeared on the Wimbleware service for the first time today - or at least the first time I've seen them. Trains of C stock were parked in the sidings at Parson's Green and the triangle, where they aren't normally during service. I didn't get any numbers down though.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

First time you've seen them; there have been two Wimbleware S7 diagrams for about 1½ weeks now.

 

[Minstral25]

First time you've seen them; there have been two Wimbleware S7 diagrams for about 1½ weeks now.

I do Fulham Broadway to Victoria every evening and I still haven't seen one in active service yet. probably just a function of my timing. However I did have a journey in January on a S7 operating to Tower Hill.

 

[Dstock7080]

The remaining 24 units (8 trains) available for 4 workings are: 5516 5517 5522 5524 5529 5531 5533 5545 5549 5550 5551 5552 5555 5560 5578 5592 5594 5596 5712 5720 5721 5726 5727 5733.
currently formed:
5516+5551+5712
5522+5555+5549
5529+5524+5545
5592+5517+5533
5594+5550+5733
5596+5560+5727
5720+5552+5726
5721+5531+5578

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Ah.... It seems I have just killed another one; I had 5565 + 5570 + 5598 for haulage on Saturday afternoon; was that the rake's final day in service?

 

[Dstock7080]

Ah.... It seems I have just killed another one; I had 5565 + 5560 + 5598 for haulage on Saturday afternoon; was that the rake's final day in service?

(I was driving it until 1256 Earl's Court WB on Saturday! although i did report that no rheostatic brake was working on 5565 which hopefully didn't hasten it's demise?)
It was out on T73 yesterday until 1455 Edgware Rd then as per TTN109/14 went empty onto Moorgate then to Neasden.

 

[455driver]

I did report that no rheostatic brake was working on 5565 which hopefully didn't hasten it's demise.

It could have caused its demise!
Any serious failure and its bye bye now for them.

 

[Manchester77]

Is any maintenance being carried out to the remaining C Stocks now or is it just 'if it fails it's gone' kind of thing now?

 

[causton]

Is any maintenance being carried out to the remaining C Stocks now or is it just 'if it fails it's gone' kind of thing now?

Did you read the post above yours, I think 455driver summed it up quite nicely

 

[43167]

In London on Wednesday, so will head for Wimbledon in the afternoon I think.

 

[455driver]

Is any maintenance being carried out to the remaining C Stocks now or is it just 'if it fails it's gone' kind of thing now?

Routine maintenance is still being carried out, but if when on maintenance a large repair is needed then the train will be withdrawn.
If a train fails in service then the costs of the repairs will be worked out and if those costs are too high then the train will be withdrawn.


It used to be that there was a cost limit on repairs and if the costs of the repairs are higher than the limit then its scrap time.
If the costs of the repairs are lower than the limit then the train will be repaired.
As you get closer to 'the end' the repair limits are lowered until they are effectively zero, the last trains are then run until they (are likely to) fail or the agreed last day is reached.

Nowadays I think with everything on a train having a service life then once an expensive bit reaches the end of its service life then the train is withdrawn, this is why perfectly serviceable (to our eyes) trains are withdrawn and scrapped.

 

[Manchester77]

Thanks for the detailed explanation

 

[astock5000]

25/02/2014:

Edgware Road - Wimbledon services:
21305 070
21399 071
5516-6516 + 6551-5551 + 6712-5712 072
5596-6596 + 5560-6560 + 6727-5727 073
5594-6594 + 5550-6550 + 6733-5733 074
21405 075
5533-6533 + 6517-5517 + 6592-5592 076
21403 077

Other C stock:
5720-6720 + 6552-5552 + 6726-5726 230 - Westbound at Wood Lane at about 11:30 this morning.
5522-6522 + 5555-6555 + 6549-5549 - Stabled at Parsons Green.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

This morning only one diagram ( 075 ) was C Stock on the Wimblewares, formed of 5549 + 5555 + 5522.

Diagram 076 was not operating. The other six were all S Stock, and apparently there are indeed now only the two C Stock diagrams ( 075 + 076 )remaining.

 

[Dstock7080]

The usual 4xC 4xS both yesterday and today.
Nothing has changed in the schedules from 23/2.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Ah... I was told that from an internal source.