Apparently they’re on course for a move to GTR next month - hearing a lot of conflicting things about the 3 with GWR though as to whether they’re going or staying put.Sorry if I've missed something, what's the score with these now as appears none have worked since the TT change?
Led to believe they’ll go to GTR as well to allow the red 387s to come back south of the river.Apparently they’re on course for a move to GTR next month - hearing a lot of conflicting things about the 3 with GWR though as to whether they’re going or staying put.
Many GWR staff are saying they’re staying put - guess we’ll have to wait and see if/when the transfer happens.Led to believe they’ll go to GTR as well to allow the red 387s to come back south of the river.
17:43 Fenchurch St-Shoeburyness only.What evening diagrams are they likely to be on?
Does this mean Great Northern will be taking them?Ex-C2C 387s 387301, 302 & 306 are due to depart GWR next Tuesday 28/06.
5Q45 Reading TCD - Peterborough Nean Sidings.
Looks like it, allowing six red 387s to return to Southern / Gatwick Express.Does this mean Great Northern will be taking them?
Last I heard it wasn't that straightforward.Looks like it, allowing six red 387s to return to Southern / Gatwick Express.
Can you possibly expand on that please?Last I heard it wasn't that straightforward.
My understanding is that it isn’t clear how many 387s will move south, nor if it’ll only be red ones that move.Can you possibly expand on that please?
Isn't it established that 35 units is the number needed on the GN to operate the current services (unless a few 717s can be freed up to operate longer distance services)?My understanding is that it isn’t clear how many 387s will move south, nor if it’ll only be red ones that move.
I mean considering it was the red ones that moved up in the first place over a year ago, surely it would make the most sense for those to be the ones that return to GatEx no?My understanding is that it isn’t clear how many 387s will move south, nor if it’ll only be red ones that move.
Yes but bar the odd peak Peterborough, they only really work Kings Cross Ely Kings Lynn. Particularly with the 455s gone, it may be that a few extras join the red ones in going to Southern as a matter of being needed more.I mean considering it was the red ones that moved up in the first place over a year ago, surely it would make the most sense for those to be the ones that return to GatEx no?
That would make sense, which is why it probably won’t happen!I mean considering it was the red ones that moved up in the first place over a year ago, surely it would make the most sense for those to be the ones that return to GatEx no?
Exactly… after all this is the DfT we’re talking about here!That would make sense, which is why it probably won’t happen!
If anything it’ll most likely be a few /1s given they’ve had more experience on third rail than the /3s - will be interesting to see what happens though.Yes but bar the odd peak Peterborough, they only really work Kings Cross Ely Kings Lynn. Particularly with the 455s gone, it may be that a few extras join the red ones in going to Southern as a matter of being needed more.
I think the three that went to GW have had the relevant mods to the SDO system (PIBS beacon) and are effectively 'standard 387s', obviously the three that remain with C2C still need these mods, but they aren't unexpected mods and would be incorporated into the other mods to make them compatible with the other fleets that they are expected to work with (i.e. Database updates etc). Fitment of the beacon is quite straightforward, with a simple bracket and multi-pin plug and reprogramming a module in the PTOSL, I would imagine less than a shifts work to do all the relevant mods to make one of these units ready for service, and there would be little point in putting them out before these mods had taken place.Last I heard it was 387/3s to SN as the three units on c2c at least don't have the more advanced ASDO fitted still so would end up on restricted diagrams on the GN whereas they can run as 4s on the East Coastway replacing the 387/2s that work on there currently.
Any idea if the /3s will be out on the GWR network on monday or will they be at Reading being prepared for the move?
Purely out of interest, will the GWR fitted BW higher speed pantographs remain with the units or remain at Reading as spares for the main fleet?They‘ll be on Reading TCD from Saturday. They won’t be out in traffic after that until they leave.
Purely out of interest, will the GWR fitted BW higher speed pantographs remain with the units or remain at Reading as spares for the main fleet?
STP 28/06 0940 Wembley HS - Reading Traincare DepotEx-C2C 387s 387301, 302 & 306 are due to depart GWR next Tuesday 28/06.
5Q45 Reading TCD - Peterborough Nean Sidings.
Southern? Posting elsewhere suggests they go to Hornsey first. I note the conversation above and post from 'Class 466' indicates that it isn't necessarily the six 387/2s on the GN that go south and does corroborate the Southern idea. Ultimately the point appears to be that Southern gets six 387s of some sort that can help with stock pressures.Apparently these will enter service with Southern and the moves to Peterborough are to temporarily store them until they re-enter service at the September TTC.