However, 92010 and 92018 haven't been reworked like 92014. They are just covering for unavailable 90s. Reports suggest that 92033 is the next rebuilt 92 to be made available.
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However, 92010 and 92018 haven't been reworked like 92014. They are just covering for unavailable 90s. Reports suggest that 92033 is the next rebuilt 92 to be made available.
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TimboM
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The irony of the "unreliable" Class 92s having to substitute for the Class 90s brought in to do a more reliable job!
Peter Mugridge
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...and we even got in to Euston about 30 minutes early yesterday morning having had a right time arrival at Edinburgh on Monday morning - no issues at all at Warrington in either direction!
87015
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Not sure the punters on last nights Inverness that had one 92 to Kilburn for another one forward will find it that ironic as they wander around Scotland 90L as a result!
LeylandLen
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Timings show that 1S25 passed Wembley 110 mins late and lost further time before arriving Crewe 2 hours down although time was made up later x
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Latest 92 "failure" was the result of a failed windscreen wiper on 92014.
It took the train to Kilburn, where 92010 which had worked the ecs ran round and took the train forward. 92014 then went back to Euston and the process was repeated with 1S26.
It took the train to Kilburn, where 92010 which had worked the ecs ran round and took the train forward. 92014 then went back to Euston and the process was repeated with 1S26.
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Not quite: as I understand it 92014 was turned so the good end was leading for 1S26.
leightonbd
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Is the Northbound Highland having a bad one just now? On time at Carlisle/ Lockerbie but 71L at Beattock and leaking further time north of Edinburgh.
Explained as a freight train issue on scot-rail group.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H36508/2016/10/12/advanced
Wow. From 12L to 301L in thirteen miles - that service averaged just over 2mph.
Iskra
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I take it the service is having a good period of reliability at the moment with no posts in this thread for a while?
Does anyone know if or when the 92's will be back out to play and on which services they will be working? I'm looking at a sleeper trip in the new year and would like to get class 92 haulage if possible (I've already got 73/9, 66, 67 and 90 haulage).
Does anyone know if or when the 92's will be back out to play and on which services they will be working? I'm looking at a sleeper trip in the new year and would like to get class 92 haulage if possible (I've already got 73/9, 66, 67 and 90 haulage).
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Get yourself up to Inverness this week and you will get some 47 haulage. Colas 47 739 is on the Inverness portion deputising for the 73.
Iskra
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Well that's very interesting, although I have had 47 haulage this year too, but as I didn't think they would be in the running to work for CS I didn't list them! Ideally, I'd like a little more notice than that so that I can book some cheap advances to drive costs down!
But thank you for the good info anyway!Blindtraveler
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73s gone bang bang? Or just exams?
sprinterguy
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Have we returned, albeit briefly, to the sensible position enjoyed in days of yore where a single locomotive can be used to both haul and provide hotel power to the train?
(Although I recognise that, historically, the Scottish sleepers are a poor example to pick on in this regard!)
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Have we returned, albeit briefly, to the sensible position enjoyed in days of yore where a single locomotive can be used to both haul and provide hotel power to the train?
Goodness me no! The obligatory 66 is still leading!
sprinterguy
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Ah, so class 47 simply being lugged around as a 2,500-and-odd horsepower mobile generator then.
What an efficient way to run a railway! 
Ah, so class 47 simply being lugged around as a 2,500-and-odd horsepower mobile generator then.
To be fair, other than hiring a 67 from DBC, what else can GBRf do until the 73/9s are sorted?
sprinterguy
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I didn't think it was that long since GBRf had used a 47 on the Carstairs - Edinburgh portion of the Lowland sleeper, although I suppose it's possible that they don't have drivers who have both route knowledge of the Highland main line and traction knowledge of class 47s. The comment was intended to be fairly light-hearted, but it does come as something of a surprise that, due to today's fragmented railway, it is not possible to find a driver with the traction knowledge to take a 47 over a main line. Times move on, I suppose.
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Less to do with the fragmented railway and more to do with the fact that 47s are a lot less common than they used to be.
sprinterguy
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Hence the "times move on" comment at the end of it: Although I'd assume that there must be some drivers in Scotland who cover both class 47s and the HML, which if all drivers were sourced from a single supplier is a resource that could be tapped into? I'm not massively fussed, but big heavy freight loco on top of big passenger loco does seem a tad excessive for an eight carriage train.
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Oh, I get that. But since 47s are scarce the combination of route and traction knowledge is going to be rare regardless of what company is signing the pay cheques.
sprinterguy
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Aye, true enough.
Peter Mugridge
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Try booking the Edinburgh northbound on a Sunday night / southbound on a Monday night; I've had three different 92s in the past couple of months. ( Usual disclaimers apply! )
92 014 on 11th September northbound ( ran to Glasgow as train short formed following the up Aberdeen failing on the Friday night ); same 92 southbound on 12th September ( 90 045 Edinburgh - Carstairs ).
92 010 on 9th October with 92 018 from Carstairs to Edinburgh. Same pairing in reverse on the way back on the 10th. On these dates, incidentally, 92 014 was on the Highlander so both services were 92 hauled on both those nights.
leomartin125
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I would love this many 92's! I don't believe 92014 is currently in the main sleeper traffic. Don't understand why though, technically it should be doing the main portions. 92033 is being tested currently and no doubt that will haul the main sleeper portions soon. Can't figure out why GBRf want to keep the Freightliner 90's for even longer...
Does anyone know if there are working showers at Inverness station when you arrive there in the morning? Heading up on a work trip on a First Advance sleeper ticket and hoping to grab a shower before I have to be in meetings...
87015
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92014 is lacking its EH equipment which got ripped off in an "incident"...
Bletchleyite
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Not in the station, but there are in the lounge across the road.
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Yes, from what I hear it's in pretty good shape generally just now. Stock maintenance is settled, trains running in consistent formations and no significant traction issues.
Obviously we're tempting fate here and tomorrow's northbound Highlander will lurch into Inverness at 2pm with square wheels.
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