matt_world2004
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My understanding is rail for london (Tfl) leases them out to the franchiseeAre these units bought directly by TfL or are they being procured by a ROSCO?
My understanding is rail for london (Tfl) leases them out to the franchiseeAre these units bought directly by TfL or are they being procured by a ROSCO?
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Sort of, there is a backlog in training of maintenance staff for the units which is the overall bottleneck so trying to do more delivery / rectification / acceptance will make matters worse hence the focus on units they already have. They would like to have 11 sets for GEML use by December TT change.Ronnie Corbett did the answering. (My all time favourite two Ronnies sketch).
Meanwhile, back on topic, any substance to the rumours that TfL / MTR are refusing to accept any more deliveries?
Someone posted on the district daves forum thst testing was due to begin at the end of October from heathrow airport to airport junction.Sort of, there is a backlog in training of maintenance staff for the units which is the overall bottleneck so trying to do more delivery / rectification / acceptance will make matters worse hence the focus on units they already have. They would like to have 11 sets for GEML use by December TT change.
However Old Oak Common is almost ready and delivery of 9 car units there will start shortly including the unit for initial ETCS testing on the western side.
Technically speaking it's a management contract isn't it? I don't imagine the operator even needs to lease them, just simply operate them.
TfLAre these units bought directly by TfL or are they being procured by a ROSCO?
I think the above pictures are of 345021. I think that is the one that arrived at Abbey Wood today (Sunday) and I presume got there via national rail. So I assume it is then for testing down the Crossrail tunnels.
If so then it is a nine car unit. So definitely not for use on TfL rail out of Liverpool Street as they have to be temporarily short at 7-cars due to platform lengths (they are longer coaches iirc).
Later the two extra cars will be added to the (fourteen ?) 7-car 345s make them 9-car when its time for them to do their proper job through the tunnels so thus missing Liverpool Street.
Isn't the plan to remodel Liverpool Street East Side as soon as the tunnel opens so that 2 platforms can be used for Crossrail peak services into the city and no-doubt C2C late night services?
If that is the case then a few 345s would have to stay 7 car until the work is completed.
I thought the Gidea Park stoppers were staying as 7 car into the high level at LST?
That was 345021, the first 9 car 345 to be delivered to the franchise. It commenced testing today in the tunnels around the Abbey Wood area. I'm trying to catch the 'first' one, 345020, which is sat at Crewe C.S. awaiting to be delivered by a loco to Maidenhead Carriage Sidings for Heathrow Branch ERTMS/ETCS testing. Although the last 345 to sit at Crewe, did so for several months... so I'm not holding my hopes up (though it was due to commence testing tonight and is still at Crewe so...)Came through Abbey Wood at 16:15 today and was greeted with a Class 37 with a 7 carriage Elizabeth Line set stabled just beyond the station. Unable to see number due to fencing along the line.
Out of interest what diagram is this I wouldnt mind seeing it at heathrow junctionStill no sign of 345020 at Maidenhead. Was due to commence testing on the Heathrow branch for ERTMS/ETCS testing tonight, the path is currently activated but can't run as 020 is currently sat in Crewe C.S. as of last week. Wonder whether it will sit there for months like the last 345 up there, or whether it might actually turn up at Maidenhead this week!
It's night testing. At the moment the only diagram in place is a daily run to Old Oak, and tests between Old Oak and Paddington and Maidenhead throughout the night. Shown below.Out of interest what diagram is this I wouldnt mind seeing it at heathrow junction
CheersIt's night testing. At the moment the only diagram in place is a daily run to Old Oak, and tests between Old Oak and Paddington and Maidenhead throughout the night. Shown below.