Bletchleyite
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Why surprising, when the headlights AFAIK haven’t changed?
Because the LNR vinylled units have only a yellow gangway without the headlight upgrade, not a full yellow front.
Why surprising, when the headlights AFAIK haven’t changed?
I'm guessing the yellow is staying??Because the LNR vinylled units have only a yellow gangway without the headlight upgrade, not a full yellow front.
Because the LNR vinylled units have only a yellow gangway without the headlight upgrade, not a full yellow front.
Wondered why they didnt paint it greenI'm guessing the yellow is staying??
Because it'll more thank likely be vinyled over at Northampton. All the LM green & black vinyls were removed at Long Marston; the only paint change was that the vestibule doors were removed and re-sprayed into dark green.Wondered why they didnt paint it green
Oh i meant the gangway, why that wasnt green like the rest of the cab but i know nowBecause it'll more thank likely be vinyled over at Northampton. All the LM green & black vinyls were removed at Long Marston; the only paint change was that the vestibule doors were removed and re-sprayed into dark green.
thanks350/4 due to arrive and enter service before december timetable starts
See hereI'm not clear on the future of the 350s in general. When are West Midlands Trains keeping the 350/1s until...? When are WMT keeping the 350/2s until...? When are they keeping the 350/3s until...? When are they getting the 350/4s...? What will happen to 350s displaced from WMT...?
I'm clear on it now, thanks
Ok. Thanks for reminding and quoting meI’ll try again ..... if the current standard Desiro headlights are retained, the minimum area of yellow required by the appropriate regulations will be needed. If the headlights are upgraded to the latest standards, the yellow end is optional (for example, GWR IETs have a yellow end, the sister TPE units do not).
IIRC I think that TPE were going to upgrade the headlights on the 185s so they could get rid of the yellow ends to give a more homogeneous brand with the new Nova fleets. Not sure if this is still going to happen.
There is yellow underneath on the cabs of the 350/3s though afaik. It's vinyls applied on top to cover the yellow. It may be that the yellow cab end is the train leasing company's neutral base livery and the the TOC are free to vinyl on top as they wish.During the refurbishment, will all of the Class 350/1s keep the yellow driving cabs for now, because the 350/3s have no yellow driving cabs but only on the gangway doors and the black panels are gone completely.
That makes sense, so will the 350/1s are getting vinyled into LNWR livery soon as well?There is yellow underneath on the cabs of the 350/3s though afaik. It's vinyls applied on top to cover the yellow. It may be that the yellow cab end is the train leasing company's neutral base livery and the the TOC are free to vinyl on top as they wish.
That makes sense, so will the 350/1s are getting vinyled into LNWR livery soon as well?
Sounds the same with all similar desirosThere is yellow underneath on the cabs of the 350/3s though afaik. It's vinyls applied on top to cover the yellow. It may be that the yellow cab end is the train leasing company's neutral base livery and the the TOC are free to vinyl on top as they wish.
Ok Great, I think that 350/3s could do the same just like 350/1s with the full great roofs and the yellow driving cabs with the LNWR livery.I'd imagine as they are tarted up they will be yes.
I’ll try again ..... if the current standard Desiro headlights are retained, the minimum area of yellow required by the appropriate regulations will be needed. If the headlights are upgraded to the latest standards, the yellow end is optional (for example, GWR IETs have a yellow end, the sister TPE units do not).
IIRC I think that TPE were going to upgrade the headlights on the 185s so they could get rid of the yellow ends to give a more homogeneous brand with the new Nova fleets. Not sure if this is still going to happen.
Cant imagine the 350/4 will have any big changes between now and being brought down to LNR.Maybe the 185 thing is happening. I’ve seen quite a few go past and absolutely blind me with two very bright headlights. No change though with any 350s as yet but their lights are still overly bright, even if it is only one.
Maybe the 185 thing is happening. I’ve seen quite a few go past and absolutely blind me with two very bright headlights. No change though with any 350s as yet but their lights are still overly bright, even if it is only one.
Seen 123 earlier sat in Crewe in a white paint scheme. No labels or anything and full yellow front. I take it this has been refurbed internally?
I wonder why they are getting painted into angel grey as they aren't going off lease? Maybe they are just going to be vinyled into lnwr.
Is it the same livery as on some non refurbished trains or is it a more complex version, as the current one looks like it could be done with paint it just would take some time as it has a couple different shades of green.Yes, the LNR livery is all-over vinyl. Probably too complex for paint.
Is it the same livery as on some non refurbished trains or is it a more complex version, as the current one looks like it could be done with paint it just would take some time as it has a couple different shades of green.