Class 373 Eurostar withdrawals

[Fred43123]

If I recall 3205/06 are still being refurbished, it must take them quite a while to refit them. Also with the Ashford KVB live, the E320s would be starting to call there from the 1st, if all goes to plan. So by the looks of it there would be less diagrams that have 373s, except the Bourg services and I believe the Marne-La-Vallee too?

 

[cl90001]

where did you find this info? I am going to visit this train in may / june sometime. I hope it's still there?

came across some pictures of 3017/3018 on Instagram last night, looks like the set has indeed been cut up

 

[DanNCL]

came across some pictures of 3017/3018 on Instagram last night, looks like the set has indeed been cut up

Would you be able to share those images of 3017/3018?

 

[cl90001]

Would you be able to share those images of 3017/3018?

2 of the photos I came across

 

[DanNCL]

2 of the photos I came across

That's almost certainly been scrapped by now then! Thanks!

Any idea if the half set behind it (I think it might be the coaches from either 3101 or 3102?) has been scrapped as well, or is that one still intact?

 

[cl90001]

That's almost certainly been scrapped by now then! Thanks!

Any idea if the half set behind it (I think it might be the coaches from either 3101 or 3102?) has been scrapped as well, or is that one still intact?

looks like that's been cut up as well mate

 

[cl90001]

If I recall 3205/06 are still being refurbished, it must take them quite a while to refit them. Also with the Ashford KVB live, the E320s would be starting to call there from the 1st, if all goes to plan. So by the looks of it there would be less diagrams that have 373s, except the Bourg services and I believe the Marne-La-Vallee too?

Marseille services as well?

 

[Fred43123]

Marseille services as well?

My mistake, forgot about them as well.

 

[cl90001]

2 of the photos I came across

came across these pictures of 3017/3018 on Instagram as well last night, all quite recent (prior to the set being cut up not long afterwards)

 

[Class319&373]

came across these pictures of 3017/3018 on Instagram as well last night, all quite recent (prior to the set being cut up not long afterwards)

You think they scrapped 3017/18 set & 3102 coaches due to all the Urbex attention it got? I mean I have a video I did on 25 Oct 2017 & 21 March 2018 of the former NoL 3304 half set sitting at Le Landy depot.

Makes me kinda scared to release it now.

 

[cl90001]

You think they scrapped 3017/18 set & 3102 coaches due to all the Urbex attention it got? I mean I have a video I did on 25 Oct 2017 & 21 March 2018 of the former NoL 3304 half set sitting at Le Landy depot.

Makes me kinda scared to release it now.

certainly wouldn't surprise me if that is why they have now cut this set up

 

[Breadman]

2 of the photos I came across

Well that's disappointing
I going to see this train would've been the highlight of my year.

 

[cl90001]

sounds like the 3 stored sets at Dourges (3021/3022, 3105/3106 + 3207/3208) have been stripped/had parts removed as well???

 

[bussnapperwm]

Does anyone know what the SNCF strike is likely to do to the Ashford - Lille services and also what traction is likely on it

 

[cl90001]

Does anyone know what the SNCF strike is likely to do to the Ashford - Lille services and also what traction is likely on it

traction wise: could be anything now that the 374s/E320s have started commercial services to/from Ashford

 

[Class319&373]

sounds like the 3 stored sets at Dourges (3021/3022, 3105/3106 + 3207/3208) have been stripped/had parts removed as well???

Out of curiosity, were there any pictures of the sets stored/scrapped sets in Dourges. I believe I saw one on Google Maps in a yard near the station

 

[cl90001]

Out of curiosity, were there any pictures of the sets stored/scrapped sets in Dourges. I believe I saw one on Google Maps in a yard near the station

one set is visible on Google Maps in a freight yard, appears to be missing a power car? only other photo I've seen of a set at Dourges is this photo of 3021/3022

 

[flash]

traction wise: could be anything now that the 374s/E320s have started commercial services to/from Ashford

Problems with ATBL & TBL (NS & SNCB ATP) faults on 374s at Ashford mean that trains booked to stop at Ashford that are 374's are now not doing so.... Passengers are being conveyed on Southeastern HS to & from Ebbsfleet.

 

[43096]

one set is visible on Google Maps in a freight yard, appears to be missing a power car?

That is probably set 3207/08: power car 3732070 went for scrap by road to Kingsbury in late 2016 I believe.

 

[AlexNL]

Problems with ATBL & TBL (NS & SNCB ATP) faults on 374s at Ashford

Interesting, as the same tech is being used on conventional lines in France and in the St. Pancras area.

 

[flash]

Interesting, as the same tech is being used on conventional lines in France and in the St. Pancras area.

St Pancras area and classic lines in France use KVB - ATBL and TBL are NS and SNCB versions

 

[AlexNL]

St Pancras area and classic lines in France use KVB - ATBL and TBL are NS and SNCB versions

Exactly, which is why it's odd that this causes issues at Ashford but not in London or Paris.

 

[cl90001]

Exactly, which is why it's odd that this causes issues at Ashford but not in London or Paris.

looks like a E320 has been running around the Ashford area today doing some investigation work (on KVB/RSO)?

 

[cl90001]

It is indeed 3001/3002. 3002 at the buffer stops end of the platform.

when 3001/3002 went to Kingsbury, 3002 seemed very clean compared to the rest of the set?

 

[cl90001]

looks like 3201/3202 will indeed be the next set to go, stored at Temple Mills awaiting its fate

 

[Crossover]

I can't remember if it has been answered before, but do the scrap sets run under their own power from Temple Mills to St Pancras before the drag starts, or do they get dragged on both legs?

 

[DanNCL]

I can't remember if it has been answered before, but do the scrap sets run under their own power from Temple Mills to St Pancras before the drag starts, or do they get dragged on both legs?

They run under their own power from Temple Mills to St Pancras.

 

[najaB]

They run under their own power from Temple Mills to St Pancras.

I wonder if the drivers have a tinge of sadness shutting down the control desk for the last time...

 

[cl90001]

I can't remember if it has been answered before, but do the scrap sets run under their own power from Temple Mills to St Pancras before the drag starts, or do they get dragged on both legs?

they come in under their own power from Temple Miils although the first couple of sets that went to Kingsbury went to scrap from passenger duties

 

[DanNCL]

they come in under their own power from Temple Miils although the first couple of sets that went to Kingsbury went to scrap from passenger duties

I don't think any did go straight to scrap from passenger duties.

As far as I'm aware, 3001/3002, 3009/3010, 3011/3012, 3013/3014 and 3103/3104 were all stored out of service for at least a couple of weeks before being sent to Kingsbury. IIRC 3013/3014 was stored on the disused Waterloo link line at Fawkham for some time. Not sure about 3003/3004, 3005/3006, 3019/3020, 3107/3108 or 3231/3232, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were all stored for at least a couple of weeks before being sent to Kingsbury either.