Class 397 TPE "Nova 2" Diagrams

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  1. djpontrack

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    It certainly is. I was on it from Preston to Carlisle earlier, then had 397006 from Carlisle to Manchester Airport and back to Preston.
     
  2. TrainTube

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    I'm guessing the interior is still the current TPE one.
     
  3. Honorary Scot

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    I am on 397006 working 1M97 1212 Edinburgh to Manchester Airport. The ride is a bit bumpy on the way to Carstairs. I have a 3 hour journey so glad it isnt a crambed 185.
     
  4. driver9000

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    Yes, it's only the livery that has been changed. Nothing has changed internally.
     
  5. Bletchleyite

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    Looking for a ride from Preston to (somewhere north of that) and back on Monday 23rd - anyone know if any are likely to be out and if so what the diagrams might be? Thanks.
     
  6. djpontrack

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    Yes mate, it’s exactly the same as the other TPE 350’s including inside the cabs.
     
  7. kc_

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    Didn't realise the cabs differed between TOCs. Imagined they'd be standard to that type of train. How extensive is the TOC branding? Is it just a few stickers, or does the whole cab go a different colour?
     
  8. swt_passenger

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    Normally the original driver and second man seating upholstery will match the rest of the train. Otherwise I’d have thought you’d have difficulty telling any 350 batch from another, or even from a 450...
     
  9. CHESHIRECAT

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    Just travelled from Bolton on a late runner to Picc (don't judge me!)
    ...litter everywhere...bins far to small
    No signs indicating power points between seats (even Northern have managed that!) ..same as on 185's
    First Class not labelled as such on windows or seats
    One coach stifiling hot
    Wi-Fi not working
    Quite sad really as the interior itself has a nice ambience
     
  10. kc_

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    Isn't Bolton a set down stop on the way towards MAN? Unless I'm wrong, how did you buy a ticket for that journey?
     
  11. Bletchleyite

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    I suspect he just boarded anyway. Or if you wanted to be sure to have a valid ticket, buy one from Preston.
     
  12. CHESHIRECAT

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    Just jumped on! Like I said....don't judge me! Was attempting humour ! I had ticket for relevant portion of the journey !
    Point of my post was to give an objective observation on said train !
    Previous Northern canx as well !
    Gonna be difficult stopping people getting on...Train arrives..open doors..stating Bolton and Manchester on side and Manchester on front....
     
  13. TrainTube

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    I think that's all TPE trains, first it takes ages to even sign in, then once you have it doesn't really work. You can use data between main towns and cities but between Lockerbie and Carstairs you are left without internet.
     
  14. CHESHIRECAT

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    Hi..wasn't even a Wi-Fi network!!
     
  15. TrainTube

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    That's odd, maybe it hasn't been fitted on the 397s, or maybe the connection keeps ending, like on the 390s who are also under First...
    That's always my argument, you've got a ticket for a journey, you are boarding a train between those two stations. It's designed to reduce boarding but I'm sure its fine.
    How fast does it go between Bolton and Manchester? I would presume it gets stuck behind stoppers more often than not.
     
  16. CHESHIRECAT

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    Was a cracking run actually ! About 15 mins to Ox road where it terminated 45 mins late
     
  17. Kite159

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    Is there any 397s out and about today?
     
  18. Erniescooper

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    003 has worked the 05:00 from Man Pic to Glasgow
     
  19. Erniescooper

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    006 is also about and will probably work the 11:35 Carlisle to Manchester Airport
     
  20. Bletchleyite

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    Are any likely to be out tomorrow (Monday 23rd)?

    Edit for others: went for 0904 off Preston which was canned so I *think* only the other set is out.
     
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    Heading out tomorrow from Oxenholme. Does anyone know if any 397s will be out and about? Thanks
     
  22. Prudhoe

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    Dreadful service today.

    1S38 cancelled
    1M83 cancelled
    1S40 350
    1S46 350 LNW livery
    1M94 cancelled

    could do better!!
     
  23. Prudhoe

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    9 cancellations today so far.
    1M87 185
    1M97 350 LNWR livery-same unit as 1S46 earlier which only ran to Carlisle.
    1S61 350
    1M98 350
    1S66 185
     
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    Remember that because Haymarket junction is closed, the only way an Edinburgh service could be provided would be using a 185, and the Sub to access Waverley from the east.
     
  25. Prudhoe

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    No sign of Novas today. There have been 8 diagrams-185-4, 350-3, plus one more later.
    This is 19:07 1S85 MA-GC. Cannot see where it comes from.

    There is the possibility of a Nova on a 2-day diagram for tomorrow and Sunday:
    04:34 5S30 Longsight-MP
    05:00 1S30 MP-GC
    09:07 1M94 GC-MA
    13:07 1S61 MA-GC
    17:08 1M92 GC-MA
    21:04 5C92 MA-Preston CS

    08:19 5S46 Preston CS-MA
    10:10 1S46 MA-Lockerbie
    13:11 1M97 Lockerbie-MA
    16:10 1S75 MA-Lockerbie
    19:13 1M93 Lockerbie-MA
    21:48 5H93 MA-Longsight
     
  26. Prudhoe

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    The problem of 1S85 is sorted. It is now shown as cancelled.
     
  27. Prudhoe

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    1S30 and 1M94 cancelled "LATE ARRIVAL OF STOCK"

    If this is the new TPE, it doesn't bode well.


     
  28. Prudhoe

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    A Nova has been out today on MA-Lockerbie diagrams:

    06:28 1M99 Lancaster-MA
    08:07 1S38 MA-Lockerbie
    11:11 1M95 Lockerbie-MA
    14:07 1S66 MA-Lockerbie (Terminated Carlisle)

    17:30 1M91 Carlisle-MA
    20:17 5W91 MA-Ardwick TMD

    For Railcam users-18:22 BLS
    18:40 Preston
    18:50 Farrington
    18:52 Leyland
     
  29. ys123

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    Are there any 397's confirmed for today? I want to travel from Manchester on a 397 today
     
  30. railways45021

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    Update for today
    1010 MA to Lockerbie Terminated at Carlisle
    1307 Lockerbie to MA Cancelled
    1610 MA to Lockerbie Cancelled
    1913 Lockerbie to MA Cancelled
    Cancelled due to a fault on the train
     

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