DarloRich
Veteran Member
As is most stock that isn't air conditioned in weather like this.
the 150 and 153 were not air conditoned and were not as bad as the 230's. They are the hottest trains i have ever been on.
As is most stock that isn't air conditioned in weather like this.
Considering its the hottest day EVER, that is not a surprise!the 150 and 153 were not air conditoned and were not as bad as the 230's. They are the hottest trains i have ever been on.
The 230's are disgustingly hot inside at present. Awful. This needs sorting out.
The 230's are disgustingly hot inside at present. Awful. This needs sorting out.
They are also really struggling on the heat with overheating engines/gensets.
Considering its the hottest day EVER, that is not a surprise!
Agreed they are pretty well sealed which isn't good in weather like this!
They're not really sealed but they do have half the windows without openers due to the door pockets. I reckon it would be viable to fit a further 4 openers per coach on the windows replacing the doors, though.
They do have forced air circulation which is an improvement on 14x or 15x[x<7]. That said, Chiltern-style air cooling would be a good addition and there would be plenty of space for the box.
if it is forced air cooling then the air is being forced through a straw by an asthmatic ant and cooled over a furnace!
Have Vivarail ever put information on the Class 230 air-conditioning in the public domain?
Have Vivarail ever put information on the Class 230 air-conditioning in the public domain?
Not much more than its existence, in a press release:Have Vivarail ever put information on the Class 230 air-conditioning in the public domain?
Adrian Shooter, CEO of Vivarail, said “This is a very exciting day for us and we are proud to be supplying the first of the new trains for Wales.
“We know that KeolisAmey want to bring the best new trains to their passengers so our interior layout has been designed to do exactly that. As well as the wide and spacious carriages the trains will have a Universal Access Toilet, WiFi, air conditioning, USB ports and 3-pin sockets. There will be a range of seating layouts and plenty of space for bikes and luggage. With KeolisAmey we have been determined to give passengers the very best travelling experience and the trains they deserve: modern, comfortable, reliable and environmentally-friendly.
Colin Lea, Mobilisation Director, KeolisAmey Wales Cymru, said: “We are proud to announce that KeolisAmey and Vivarail will provide a step-change in passenger comfort and service quality on three North Wales routes (Wrexham-Bidston, Conwy Valley, Chester-Crewe) by introducing these units, fitted with the latest passenger comfort appliances such as power supply at all seats, high-speed Wi-Fi, air-cooling, bike spaces, and a brand new seating layout reflecting the needs of the passengers on these routes.
Have Vivarail ever put information on the Class 230 air-conditioning in the public domain?
Not much more than its existence, in a press release
Have Vivarail ever put information on the Class 230 air-conditioning in the public domain?
I ran some punctuality stats on weekday peak services on the route from the day the 230s were introduced until now. May make for some interesting reading.My daughters are returning home on a replacement bus today. This is the 4th time out of 5 trips in the past fortnight.
1640W
RTP: 13% (4% July)
DR15: 17% (21% July)
DR30: 13% (17% July)
DR60: 11% (13% July)
1740W
RTP: 19% (0% July)
DR15: 24% (46% July)
DR30: 14% (25% July)
DR60: 13% (21% July)
1826W
RTP: 44% (25% July)
DR15: 17% (17% July)
DR30: 11% (13% July)
DR60: 11% (13% July)
1929/1930W
RTP: 35% (25% July)
DR15: 17% (33% July)
DR30: 14% (29% July)
DR60: 13% (25% July)
1653E
RTP: 15%
DR15: 20%
DR30: 13%
DR60: 13%
1732/1736E
RTP: 33% (9% July)
DR15: 17% (15% July)
DR30: 13% (9% July)
DR60: 13% (9% July)
1831/1832E
RTP: 42% (9% July)
DR15: 24% (43% July)
DR30: 13% (26% July)
DR60: 11% (22% July)
1922E
RTP: 43% (35% July)
DR15: 6% (9% July)
DR30: 4% (9% July)
DR60: 4% (9% July)
Average across all peak services:
RTP: 30%
DR15: 18%
DR30: 12%
DR60: 11%
Swap West and East!I ran some punctuality stats on weekday peak services on the route from the day the 230s were introduced until now. May make for some interesting reading.
A right-time performance of 0% for a full month isn't exactly great, though the rest of the stats suggest your daughters may have been rather unlucky. The 1740 heading east and 1832 back west seem to be the worst offenders.
CorrectAll diagrams are 230 now right (when it's not broken)?
There’s no alternative to the 230s either. The nearest ordinary DMU will be many miles away...All diagrams are 230 now right (when it's not broken)?
All diagrams are 230 now right (when it's not broken)?
Bog news people! Buns have been fitted to the the 230 I was on this morning!!!!!!!
Bog news people! Buns have been fitted...
The letter i can be found between o and u on the keyboard - try substituting!Er, wha?
Buns have been fitted to the the 230 I was on this morning!!!!!!!
This all reminds me of a certain Allo Allo character who was just p*ssing byanyone got pocs of these buns...?
The letter i can be found between o and u on the keyboard - try substituting!
Bog news people! Buns have been fitted to the the 230 I was on this morning!!!!!!!